[LUAU] Ubuntu... Legalities

[Maddog]

I'm not talking about putting a Linksys et. al, AP in you hotel hallway, I 
am talking about a commercial Wi-Fi deployment. You are not going to deploy 
that crappy equipment in Waikiki and expect not to be over run by the guys 
already there using much more powerful equipment.

C'mon Jim. We are going to be on opposite sides of this discussion forever 
so let's just agree to disagree. As long as you have hardheaded, old boys 
running the hotels there is no way you are going to have free wireless in 
Waikiki. I have been here for 15 years and nothing has changed that would 
make hotel execs see the light. If something is sold on your wireless AP 
they want a cut. As recently as last week Friday that was the case.

If you don't believe me talk to Gordon Bruce. He'll tell you of the 
countless headaches and bickering he has endured from all the players about 
how they are going to get their cut of the rev-share pie. It is just not 
realistic to think it will ever happen here.

I am right in the middle of it. Bandwidth charges and Wi-Fi. I know all 
about it.

MD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Thompson" <jim at netgate.com>
To: "LUAU" <luau at lists.hosef.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu... Legalities


> I'm sorry, but a single AP in your coffee shop/mcdonalds/lunch 
> counter/.... will cost you less than $100.
>
> Hotels (on the mainland) have figured out that people will  preferentially 
> stay where there first was WiFi and now folks will  stay where its free.
> This is especially true in the "3 star" level places.   (Nobody  expects 
> water to be free in the Four Seasons.)
>
> Jim
>
> On Jun 6, 2006, at 1:23 PM, Maddog wrote:
>
>> I know plenty about the cost of bandwidth. I also know about the  cost of 
>> deploying wireless equipment and maintaining the network.  It is not 
>> viable to offer free wi-fi unless you can pay for the costs.
>>
>> MD
>>>> Bandwidth and equipment cost money and I don't see any companies 
>>>> lining up to donate either.
>>>
>>> Bandwidth... what do you know about bandwidth charges?
>>>
>>>> MD
>>
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