[LUAU] Myth TV Thanks!

[Eric Hattemer]

Jim Thompson wrote:
>   
>> There was also talk of having a annual conference as a fundraser to highlight OSS in the community - j/k
>>  
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>>     
> I find your humor here derogatory in tone and tenor, and sarcastic at
> best.  Perhaps I misinterpret, and you will clarify.  Interestingly the
> record shows that you were involved with TPOSSCON 05.   Can it be true
> that you now deride same?
>
>   
>> You should come next build, you can ask the 'old-timers' - people over 30 about the good old days.
>>  
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>>     
> Matt, you can choose to either help build, or help tear things apart. 
>
> I'll be 44 in May, what is your point?   Do you mean to insinuate that
> because Julian is under 30, that he can't hope to understand your
> politics?   That life really was better before he was born, when 1MB of
> memory cost more than any of us made in a week? 
>
> Because I'll back Julian in a Linux "bar fight".   I'll lay $500 that he
> can out-code anyone in your company (I get to pick the language and
> platform.)
>
> Jim
>
> _

Whoa, let's be cool, everyone.  I don't think I read anything negative
in Matt's comments.  This was about history of the list, and I'm fairly
sure that 'old-timers' are just people that can remember what the list
was like back then.  I'm 23, but I can remember back to 99/2000.  I
remember that this is exactly why we had two LUAUs.  I wasn't there for
it, but I remember hearing rumors that the original LUAU fell apart
because everyone fought all the time.  Warren kept the name, but made a
point to say that it wouldn't be as ugly and mean-spirited as the end of
the last group.  It almost got that way anyway in the first part of this
century, because a couple of people resented Warren taking a lot of
leadership in the group (saying it wasn't democratic enough). 

Now I imagine Scott would see some liability in throwing the HOSEF name
around randomly at meetings and events that don't involve him.  You may
be able to get the HOSEF organization to agree to and sponsor whatever
events you are planning.  I'm guessing that funds are chartered more for
school projects, but you'd have to ask the HOSEF organizers. 

But since LUAU hasn't had a "real" meeting since Warren moved to New
Hampshire, you can use that name and make meetings, and do what you
like.  LUAU used to have meetings at Mid-Pacific Institute with pizza
and talks about kernels and virtual machines and things like that.  It
was at Mid-pac because Warren volunteered there.  He made a linux
computer lab there.  Many of the MPLUG/LUAU (same group then, basically)
got together to help build that lab.  People were bringing in computers
and stuff like that.  As time went on, MPLUG/LUAU started working on
other school labs.  This is where HOSEF basically came from.  So many of
the main/active members were working on these things, that
MPLUG/LUAU/HOSEF became somewhat synonymous.  This doesn't mean that
just because some people are working on linux labs and the newer HOSEF
school projects, that everyone has to stop holding meetings to talk
about kernel developments and building telecom servers. 

Is the space at McKinley an option?  Is Scott willing to let people work
on these things at his workshop area? 

I hope everyone can give the benefit of the doubt to what each other
say.  This message is not meant to be negative or anti-anyone.  I just
mean to try to keep the peace, and tell what I remember of LUAU.  It may
not be factually accurate, but please let me know that in a polite manner. 

-Eric Hattemer