[LUAU] Fedora or Debian

[Maddog]

I run both Debian as a mail server and a Fedora 1 box for an intranet/forums
at work. It took about 5 installs of Debian to get it right and I never did
get the gui working but that just forced me to do everything from the
command line and I must say, it rawks over the gui. Coming from the Windows
world it has made me realize how much more Windoze sux than I had thought
before.

Anyways, I think the last time I rebooted the Debian box was about 8 months
ago :-) rawk solid if you ask me. I had ro reboot the Fedora box when I
updated the kernel not too long ago.

I also use the Fedora box as a Samba Server and that works fairly well I
just need to do some more reading to get it integrated with AD on the
Windoze side.

As an aside, I had to reboot both Windoze servers twicw last week. I don't
care what Windoze enthsiasts say, you just can't beat Linux for stability
over the long haul. The two Linux servers I have reboot maybe every 3 months
on average, the Windoze boxes are rebooted once a week and more often than
not twice or three times.

I don't why I put all that in there cuz it really doesn't have anything to
do with your questions. In light of your reply I would say your best bet is
to go with Debian since the developers build and run that you will have much
fewer issues and much less headaches.

Just my $0.00002
MD
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard" <mypop3mail at yahoo.com>
To: "Linux/Unix Advocates/Users Hawaiian community discussion list"
<luau at lists.hosef.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [LUAU] Fedora or Debian


> Thanks Scott,
>
> It is really a good analysis. The application I'd run
> is mainly web server and php in the front and mysql on
> the back. Also an IM type of server supports
> potentially thousands concurrent users. The server
> developer indicates that most of them use Debian. I
> currently use Fedora 1. It doesn't have any problem
> now. But I wonder if I should switch to Debian, just
> to be in sync with those developers to avoid any
> potential problems on support.
>
> There are some discussions of cheap linux router on
> this list recently. Soekris box is mentioned several
> times. It seems the Debian installation on Soekris is
> well documented. But there is little help on Fedora
> installation. The standard miminum Fedora 1
> installation is about 300M, too big for a flash card.
>
> That's another reason to prompt me thinking about
> moving to Debian.
>
> Thanks,
> R
>
>
> --- "R. Scott Belford" <scott at belford.net> wrote:
> > Richard wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'd like to hear some technical advice on the
> > > comparison of Fedora and Debian. If I want to
> > mainly
> > > run network applications, what package should I
> > use?
> > > GUI is not critical to me.
> > >
> >
> > Both are community developed projects.  Each
> > embodies the same
> > philosophy of Open Source Development.  Comparing
> > the two distributions
> > requires the consideration of their respective
> > release schedules.
> >
> > Debian produces a stable distribution.  To get a
> > package to stable, it
> > must first work its way through the unstable branch,
> > then the testing
> > branch, then stable.  The last stable release came
> > out two years ago.
> > This can be a misnomer, though.  The "testing" and
> > "unstable" branches
> > of Debian have many of the same packages as a Fedora
> > release, but the
> > Debian developers do not consider them mature or
> > tested enough for a
> > Stable, Production Quality Distribution.
> >
> > Fedora produces an evolving distribution.  Its
> > bi-annual releases
> > integrate the most stable form of the newest
> > packages available.  It is
> > a bit of a testing platform through which RedHat can
> > best evaluate which
> > packages are ready for its Enterprise release.  Once
> > upon a time, RedHat
> > released numbered versions, often several times a
> > year.  Deciding which
> > release was stable or appropriate for you or your
> > business was
> > difficult, and the life of respective releases was
> > undetermined.
> >
> > You should ask yourself what you want to do with
> > your server.  You will
> > find a great set of tools and features in Fedora
> > that are available
> > through the command line or a GUI.  You will find
> > that the non-gui
> > install of debian, while simple, can intimidate
> > some.  Getting X11 to
> > work with debian stable can be a challenge for some.
> >
> > I run Debian stable on my home servers, and I
> > install it for POS
> > customers for running their proprietary POS apps
> > like Counterpoint.
> > Rock solid, headless, and uptimes are ended only by
> > prolonged power
> > outages.  I run Debian testing on my iBooks.  I want
> > the "newer" stuff,
> > like KDE 3.x, so I go with testing for these less
> > demanding installations.
> >
> > Many people on this list run Fedora.  It is fun, it
> > is new, it was
> > inspired by a local student, Warren Togami, and it
> > creates some Hawaiian
> > pride for everyone.  For a hobbyist or an open
> > source enthusiast, it is
> > fun and exciting to use, it seems, for most.
> >
> > The primary criticism of Debian Stable is that the
> > packages are old.
> > Most of these critics are incapable of stating the
> > technical merits of
> > the "newer" packages they profess to crave.  I
> > prefer, for stability and
> > reliability, to go with the least common
> > denominator, so to speak.
> >
> > Hopefully this helps without fanning the
> > ideaological flames of our more
> > dogmatic users.  You have a lot of choices, and
> > hopefully others will
> > share their own opinions on the matter.
> >
> > Perhaps you should state what Network Apps you
> > intend to run in order to
> > shape the discussion along the lines of each
> > distribution's version of
> > the Apps you want.
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > > R
> >
> > my pleasure
> >
> > --scott
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