[LUAU] Fedora or Debian

[Paul]

Good point.  One of the main reasons I looked at Debian as well is due 
to how small you can get the installation.  I really wish Fedora had a 
small footprint (50-100MB for minimal install).

One dist I recommend for devices running on flash is Pebble Linux 
(http://www.nycwireless.net/pebble/).  It is based off of Debian.  
Although it includes tools for wireless access points, you can remove 
these easily.  It will install on a 64 MB flash card.  And the best 
part is, it is setup to mount the flash read-only, thus extending the 
life of your flash card by minimizing the writes to it for only config 
changes when you remount it read/write.

Paul




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On May 23, 2004, at 1:22 PM, Richard wrote:

> Thanks Scott,
>
> It is really a good analysis. The application I'd run
> is mainly web server and php in the front and mysql on
> the back. Also an IM type of server supports
> potentially thousands concurrent users. The server
> developer indicates that most of them use Debian. I
> currently use Fedora 1. It doesn't have any problem
> now. But I wonder if I should switch to Debian, just
> to be in sync with those developers to avoid any
> potential problems on support.
>
> There are some discussions of cheap linux router on
> this list recently. Soekris box is mentioned several
> times. It seems the Debian installation on Soekris is
> well documented. But there is little help on Fedora
> installation. The standard miminum Fedora 1
> installation is about 300M, too big for a flash card.
>
> That's another reason to prompt me thinking about
> moving to Debian.
>
> Thanks,
> R
>
>
> --- "R. Scott Belford" <scott at belford.net> wrote:
>> Richard wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'd like to hear some technical advice on the
>>> comparison of Fedora and Debian. If I want to
>> mainly
>>> run network applications, what package should I
>> use?
>>> GUI is not critical to me.
>>>
>>
>> Both are community developed projects.  Each
>> embodies the same
>> philosophy of Open Source Development.  Comparing
>> the two distributions
>> requires the consideration of their respective
>> release schedules.
>>
>> Debian produces a stable distribution.  To get a
>> package to stable, it
>> must first work its way through the unstable branch,
>> then the testing
>> branch, then stable.  The last stable release came
>> out two years ago.
>> This can be a misnomer, though.  The "testing" and
>> "unstable" branches
>> of Debian have many of the same packages as a Fedora
>> release, but the
>> Debian developers do not consider them mature or
>> tested enough for a
>> Stable, Production Quality Distribution.
>>
>> Fedora produces an evolving distribution.  Its
>> bi-annual releases
>> integrate the most stable form of the newest
>> packages available.  It is
>> a bit of a testing platform through which RedHat can
>> best evaluate which
>> packages are ready for its Enterprise release.  Once
>> upon a time, RedHat
>> released numbered versions, often several times a
>> year.  Deciding which
>> release was stable or appropriate for you or your
>> business was
>> difficult, and the life of respective releases was
>> undetermined.
>>
>> You should ask yourself what you want to do with
>> your server.  You will
>> find a great set of tools and features in Fedora
>> that are available
>> through the command line or a GUI.  You will find
>> that the non-gui
>> install of debian, while simple, can intimidate
>> some.  Getting X11 to
>> work with debian stable can be a challenge for some.
>>
>> I run Debian stable on my home servers, and I
>> install it for POS
>> customers for running their proprietary POS apps
>> like Counterpoint.
>> Rock solid, headless, and uptimes are ended only by
>> prolonged power
>> outages.  I run Debian testing on my iBooks.  I want
>> the "newer" stuff,
>> like KDE 3.x, so I go with testing for these less
>> demanding installations.
>>
>> Many people on this list run Fedora.  It is fun, it
>> is new, it was
>> inspired by a local student, Warren Togami, and it
>> creates some Hawaiian
>> pride for everyone.  For a hobbyist or an open
>> source enthusiast, it is
>> fun and exciting to use, it seems, for most.
>>
>> The primary criticism of Debian Stable is that the
>> packages are old.
>> Most of these critics are incapable of stating the
>> technical merits of
>> the "newer" packages they profess to crave.  I
>> prefer, for stability and
>> reliability, to go with the least common
>> denominator, so to speak.
>>
>> Hopefully this helps without fanning the
>> ideaological flames of our more
>> dogmatic users.  You have a lot of choices, and
>> hopefully others will
>> share their own opinions on the matter.
>>
>> Perhaps you should state what Network Apps you
>> intend to run in order to
>> shape the discussion along the lines of each
>> distribution's version of
>> the Apps you want.
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> R
>>
>> my pleasure
>>
>> --scott
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