[luau] Friday night IRC meeting, Linux for Hawaii schools

[LinuxDan]

Scott
           I will keep that in mind.  I didn't intend to "flame" but to
inform.  I will keep in touch and as soon as we get to that point of needing
help, I would rather inform you through personal email instead of a public
forum.  I will try to locate your contact information or call you at
Pricebusters. I just do not want anyone going to our contacts and confusing
them on whose who.  I just feel I like the progress and do not need a bump
in the road nor do I want to burn bridges so when a project comes up that
requires both our efforts we can be on the same page.  Our financial
donations are going extremely well but I appreciate the offer anyways.  If
you happen to have any donated Cisco routers available I will glad to work
out some sort of arrangement.  I am also trying out my contacts at Cisco
whom I had working in tech.  When I recover fully, I may be able to help you
out as well.  If our donation from the mainland turns out as large as I
believe it to be, then we may be able to buy those routers outright.

Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: luau-admin at videl.ics.hawaii.edu
[mailto:luau-admin at videl.ics.hawaii.edu]On Behalf Of R. Scott Belford
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:58 AM
To: luau at videl.ics.hawaii.edu
Subject: Re: [luau] Friday night IRC meeting, Linux for Hawaii schools

On Thursday 13 February 2003 07:14 pm, LinuxDan wrote:

> I believe there are other organizations who would like
> this information so that they can request support or try and undermine
what
> I have worked so hard to do over the last eight months. Those who do a
poor
> representation of Opensource and give us a black eye as per a response
from
> the DOE. I would like to build a bridge, when the time is right, with
those
> who aren't renegades and burn bridges. You have someone in your group who
> has made a comment to the DOE and they know this person is part of LUAU.
> Its sad because there are some good people in the group.

Dan,

I want very much for our fledgling movement to stay very positive and make a
noble impact.  A mailing list is hardly the audience to denigrate our
objectives because of issues you have with a single individual.  I find it
very hard to believe that our State's DOE has advised you to have nothing to
do with the hundreds of members on this mailing list because of one person.
Regarding the first quoted sentence above, I assure you that I know of no
one
who "would like this information so that they can request support or try and
undermine what I have worked so hard to do over the last eight months."

I know that there are dozens of people willing to help the Opensource
movement in Hawaii.  I am sure that they would be happy to help you without
undermining you.  I offered you hardware and support back in November of
last
year.  The thing that neither I or the other list members know anything
about
is your organization so that we could help.

Must it exist in secrecy?  To be honest with you, Dan, it sounds somewhat
pretentious and a little insincere when you discuss all of your great
efforts
without any reference to your organization.  I know more about your physical
condition after you got hit by a car than I do about what I can do to help
you to advance our shared objectives.

I have deliberately tried to make my efforts to form HOSEF as open and
public
as humanly possible.  Perhaps to the chagrin of the list members, I have
nearly spammed us with updates, status, and opportunities to be involved.
It
is my intention for HOSEF to exist independent of the effects of any one
individual.  This requires openness.  I intend for it to be an institution
in
Hawaii for decades to come.

If you wish to continue to inform the list of your inititiatives, it would
be
fair and appropriate if you let us know who your organization is, how we can
help, or where we can send money.  The more you claim secrecy because of one
of LUAU's members, the less credibility you will garner from the esteemed
members of LUAU.  I promise you that there are people who want to help you.

aloha

scott
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