[luau] New Linux Worm Threatens Serious Denial Of Service Attacks Sept. 16, 2002

[Warren Togami]

On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 22:25, Ray Strode wrote:
> >At first when I heard of Red Carpet, up2date, urpmi, and apt-rpm didn't
> >exist.
> >
> Actually, urpmi was around a _long_ time before Red Carpet.

Oh.  Thanks for the correction.
Was Mandrake using it back then?  

> 
> >  There were no automatic RPM dependency tools, so I was excited
> >about Mono.
> >
> Mono? :-)  

Oops!

> >Ximian has always been in bitter disagreements with Red Hat, and as a 
> >result their packages are very incompatible. 
> >
> oh? I don't remember anything.

Read the release notes of all the recent versions of Red Hat.  They all
recommend completely removing Ximian before doing an upgrade or bad
things will occur due to ugly differences in packaging and dependencies.


> >I'd really like for someone to prove me wrong, but I personally feel
> >that Ximian Gnome has no real benefits.  
> >
> Ximian produced a usable distribution of Gnome when no one else did.
> Since then, others have produced good versions of Gnome, too, so Ximian's
> distro is less important.  Ximian hasn't released a distribution of Gnome
> for the 2.0 platform, so Ximian Gnome isn't up to date. When they do
> release a version then it will be interesting to see how it compares.
> 
> --Ray

Unfortunately I think Ximian almost gave up on their desktop
distribution, instead working on Gnome2 and Mono.  I deeply worry about
their financial situation... kinda hard to continue in business with
little chance of revenue.

Their "Ximian Connect" product that allows Evolution to connect to
Microsoft Exchange IMHO is their only value product they have at the
moment.