Mailing List Capacity Reached! CRAP!

[Ronald Willis]

Do your best with the changeover to Mailman. It is in the best interest of
the Open Source community to use Open Source software to support the list.

As an ol-timer and the first to get bashed about suggesting the name change,
I realized something at that time. We are powerless to change the past...

"LUAU doesn't come with a delete key."

What names are you considering?

>- -----Original Message-----
>- From: Warren Togami [mailto:warren at togami.com]
>- Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:15 PM
>- To: Linux & Unix Advocates & Users
>- Subject: [luau] Mailing List Capacity Reached! CRAP!
>-
>-
>- Crap!!
>-
>- For a while now I've been sitting here looking at the
>- subscripion numbers of
>- LUAU and wondering why they haven't been increasing.  It has
>- been this way
>- for MONTHS.
>-
>- Now someone e-mails me saying that when he tried to subscribe, it bounced
>- back saying Lyris is at its subscription limit.  I am saddened
>- by the amount
>- of lost subscribers we may have lost in this period, I estimate
>- this number
>- to be nearly 70!
>-
>- HI.NET is using the free version of Lyris to host the LUAU list
>- that has a
>- certain number of user limit.  In order to go beyond this limit we must
>- either buy the pay version of Lyris or switch to another mailing list
>- manager software.
>-
>- I personally say we should switch to the Mailman mailing list manager
>- package used very successfully by Red Hat and Gnome.  Ray Strode
>- and I have
>- been managing Mailman on the new Linux server at the UH ICS
>- Department for a
>- while now and we are very happy with it.  I much prefer Mailman
>- over Lyris
>- because it has a much more friendly web based archive.  Mailman
>- archives are
>- also searchable by Google, something Lyris cannot do.  In order
>- to move from
>- Lyris to Mailman, we would need only to convert the mailing list archives
>- into mbox format and we would be good to go.  You can see an example of a
>- Mailman archive here:
>- https://listman.redhat.com/pipermail/ataraid-list/
>-
>- Unless anyone is unhappy with this idea of moving from Lyris to
>- Mailman, I
>- decree that it shall be done.  It is simply better than Lyris while being
>- Free and Open Source Software.
>-
>- Now here is the main question, where should LUAU be hosted?
>- HI.NET has been
>- gracious for many years in hosting the mailing list for the
>- community and we
>- thank them for it, but we now have the capacity to host it
>- ourselves using
>- the University's bandwidth.  Such a move would remove the burden
>- of hosting
>- from HI.NET, making it the community's responsibility.
>-
>- Jay and anyone at HI.NET, how do you feel about this?  Would you
>- be happy in
>- changing over to Mailman and continuing to host the list?  Have we been
>- burdening your company's resources?
>-
>- Community, what do you want?
>-
>- These changes must be done soon or we will continue to not have any new
>- subscribers.  Everyone please post your feelings on this issue.
>- Warren Togami
>- warren at togami.com
>-
>- p.s. I will also put this out now.  I believe it may also be
>- time to change
>- the name of the mailing list.  It annoys me to no end that
>- people still keep
>- thinking LUAU is the local group and asking "When are the LUAU meetings?"
>- Yes some of you really hate this idea, so SPEAK UP and let your
>- feelings be
>- known.
>-
>-
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