Mailing List Capacity Reached! CRAP!

[Steve Anderson]

Of course there is always the name HULA - Hawaii Unix and Linux
Anonymous. 

Let's change the name. Let's create a new charter that says the mailing
list serves any Hawaii Unix/Linux User Group in the Hawaiian Islands.

my 2cents,
steve

On Thu, 2002-02-21 at 22:14, Warren Togami wrote:
> Crap!!
> 
> For a while now I've been sitting here looking at the subscripion numbers of
> LUAU and wondering why they haven't been increasing.  It has been this way
> for MONTHS.
> 
> Now someone e-mails me saying that when he tried to subscribe, it bounced
> back saying Lyris is at its subscription limit.  I am saddened by the amount
> of lost subscribers we may have lost in this period, I estimate this number
> to be nearly 70!
> 
> HI.NET is using the free version of Lyris to host the LUAU list that has a
> certain number of user limit.  In order to go beyond this limit we must
> either buy the pay version of Lyris or switch to another mailing list
> manager software.
> 
> I personally say we should switch to the Mailman mailing list manager
> package used very successfully by Red Hat and Gnome.  Ray Strode and I have
> been managing Mailman on the new Linux server at the UH ICS Department for a
> while now and we are very happy with it.  I much prefer Mailman over Lyris
> because it has a much more friendly web based archive.  Mailman archives are
> also searchable by Google, something Lyris cannot do.  In order to move from
> Lyris to Mailman, we would need only to convert the mailing list archives
> into mbox format and we would be good to go.  You can see an example of a
> Mailman archive here:
> https://listman.redhat.com/pipermail/ataraid-list/
> 
> Unless anyone is unhappy with this idea of moving from Lyris to Mailman, I
> decree that it shall be done.  It is simply better than Lyris while being
> Free and Open Source Software.
> 
> Now here is the main question, where should LUAU be hosted?  HI.NET has been
> gracious for many years in hosting the mailing list for the community and we
> thank them for it, but we now have the capacity to host it ourselves using
> the University's bandwidth.  Such a move would remove the burden of hosting
> from HI.NET, making it the community's responsibility.
> 
> Jay and anyone at HI.NET, how do you feel about this?  Would you be happy in
> changing over to Mailman and continuing to host the list?  Have we been
> burdening your company's resources?
> 
> Community, what do you want?
> 
> These changes must be done soon or we will continue to not have any new
> subscribers.  Everyone please post your feelings on this issue.
> Warren Togami
> warren at togami.com
> 
> p.s. I will also put this out now.  I believe it may also be time to change
> the name of the mailing list.  It annoys me to no end that people still keep
> thinking LUAU is the local group and asking "When are the LUAU meetings?"
> Yes some of you really hate this idea, so SPEAK UP and let your feelings be
> known.
> 
> 
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