Mailing List Capacity Reached! CRAP!

[R Scott Belford]

Ouch.  I'm glad this was noticed.  I have to echo Jeff's words and 
express my gratitude to you, Warren, for the time you put in to this.  I 
am for the change.  More subscribers is good.  Unless it offended 
hi.net, hosting it at UH would make sense.  I have wanted to use 
Mailman, so it will be good to watch it work.

I am far too new here to have an opinion about the name.  I don't even 
know what it is an acronym for, I just know that the collective 
knowledge here is commendable.  Change it and I will subscribe.

scott

On Thursday, February 21, 2002, at 10:14  PM, Warren Togami wrote:

> Crap!!
>
> For a while now I've been sitting here looking at the subscripion 
> numbers of
> LUAU and wondering why they haven't been increasing.  It has been this 
> way
> for MONTHS.
>
> Now someone e-mails me saying that when he tried to subscribe, it 
> bounced
> back saying Lyris is at its subscription limit.  I am saddened by the 
> amount
> of lost subscribers we may have lost in this period, I estimate this 
> number
> to be nearly 70!
>
> HI.NET is using the free version of Lyris to host the LUAU list that 
> has a
> certain number of user limit.  In order to go beyond this limit we must
> either buy the pay version of Lyris or switch to another mailing list
> manager software.
>
> I personally say we should switch to the Mailman mailing list manager
> package used very successfully by Red Hat and Gnome.  Ray Strode and I 
> have
> been managing Mailman on the new Linux server at the UH ICS Department 
> for a
> while now and we are very happy with it.  I much prefer Mailman over 
> Lyris
> because it has a much more friendly web based archive.  Mailman 
> archives are
> also searchable by Google, something Lyris cannot do.  In order to move 
> from
> Lyris to Mailman, we would need only to convert the mailing list 
> archives
> into mbox format and we would be good to go.  You can see an example 
> of a
> Mailman archive here:
> https://listman.redhat.com/pipermail/ataraid-list/
>
> Unless anyone is unhappy with this idea of moving from Lyris to 
> Mailman, I
> decree that it shall be done.  It is simply better than Lyris while 
> being
> Free and Open Source Software.
>
> Now here is the main question, where should LUAU be hosted?  HI.NET has 
> been
> gracious for many years in hosting the mailing list for the community 
> and we
> thank them for it, but we now have the capacity to host it ourselves 
> using
> the University's bandwidth.  Such a move would remove the burden of 
> hosting
> from HI.NET, making it the community's responsibility.
>
> Jay and anyone at HI.NET, how do you feel about this?  Would you be 
> happy in
> changing over to Mailman and continuing to host the list?  Have we been
> burdening your company's resources?
>
> Community, what do you want?
>
> These changes must be done soon or we will continue to not have any new
> subscribers.  Everyone please post your feelings on this issue.
> Warren Togami
> warren at togami.com
>
> p.s. I will also put this out now.  I believe it may also be time to 
> change
> the name of the mailing list.  It annoys me to no end that people still 
> keep
> thinking LUAU is the local group and asking "When are the LUAU 
> meetings?"
> Yes some of you really hate this idea, so SPEAK UP and let your 
> feelings be
> known.
>
>
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