Mailing List Capacity Reached! CRAP!

[Jeff Mings]

Warren,
    Thanks again for all of the time and effort you put into the local 
Linux/open source community.  I still don't understand how you manage to 
get so much done while attending school and actually sleeping at night. 
 I'm sure that Mailman will do the job nicely.
    As for changing the name, yes it's overdue.  I was a member of the 
old LUAU, and attended meetings when we met at the Manoa Innovation 
Center, which is were LUAU first met yourself.  My only concern in 
changing the name is that it be done in such a way that people not get 
lost.  I, for one, will have to change my .procmailrc file in advance to 
ensure that my spam filters don't kill off mailing list messages.

-Jeff


Warren Togami wrote:

>Crap!!
>
>For a while now I've been sitting here looking at the subscripion numbers of
>LUAU and wondering why they haven't been increasing.  It has been this way
>for MONTHS.
>
>Now someone e-mails me saying that when he tried to subscribe, it bounced
>back saying Lyris is at its subscription limit.  I am saddened by the amount
>of lost subscribers we may have lost in this period, I estimate this number
>to be nearly 70!
>
>HI.NET is using the free version of Lyris to host the LUAU list that has a
>certain number of user limit.  In order to go beyond this limit we must
>either buy the pay version of Lyris or switch to another mailing list
>manager software.
>
>I personally say we should switch to the Mailman mailing list manager
>package used very successfully by Red Hat and Gnome.  Ray Strode and I have
>been managing Mailman on the new Linux server at the UH ICS Department for a
>while now and we are very happy with it.  I much prefer Mailman over Lyris
>because it has a much more friendly web based archive.  Mailman archives are
>also searchable by Google, something Lyris cannot do.  In order to move from
>Lyris to Mailman, we would need only to convert the mailing list archives
>into mbox format and we would be good to go.  You can see an example of a
>Mailman archive here:
>https://listman.redhat.com/pipermail/ataraid-list/
>
>Unless anyone is unhappy with this idea of moving from Lyris to Mailman, I
>decree that it shall be done.  It is simply better than Lyris while being
>Free and Open Source Software.
>
>Now here is the main question, where should LUAU be hosted?  HI.NET has been
>gracious for many years in hosting the mailing list for the community and we
>thank them for it, but we now have the capacity to host it ourselves using
>the University's bandwidth.  Such a move would remove the burden of hosting
>from HI.NET, making it the community's responsibility.
>
>Jay and anyone at HI.NET, how do you feel about this?  Would you be happy in
>changing over to Mailman and continuing to host the list?  Have we been
>burdening your company's resources?
>
>Community, what do you want?
>
>These changes must be done soon or we will continue to not have any new
>subscribers.  Everyone please post your feelings on this issue.
>Warren Togami
>warren at togami.com
>
>p.s. I will also put this out now.  I believe it may also be time to change
>the name of the mailing list.  It annoys me to no end that people still keep
>thinking LUAU is the local group and asking "When are the LUAU meetings?"
>Yes some of you really hate this idea, so SPEAK UP and let your feelings be
>known.
>
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