[luau] [Fwd: Athlon Comptuer] / Hard Drive

[Joe Linux]

We are not trying to hurt you, and I actually respect you and your 
efforts very much, unfortunately the fact of the matter is Warren's 
conduct has become untenable and apparently he has very much soured both 
of us.  As you point out, we are much older,  I'm quite sure I was using 
a computer before Warren was even born.  I admit that doesn't mean much, 
but we certainly deserve more respect and more appropriate behavior from 
him.  Actually I have never had a problem with anyone in the group 
besides Warren, but as I said before I find his conduct totally 
unacceptable, and I regret donating in any way to his efforts.  I have 
also pointed out before that I'm a contributing and respected member of 
the CLUE (Colorado Linux Users and Enthusiasts) group in Denver 
Colorado, and have never experienced or seen anything similar.

R. Scott Belford wrote:

>On Friday 27 December 2002 07:57 am, Joe Linux wrote:
>  
>
>>  I got this email from Wayne Liauh,  he now wants to give the computer
>>that he gave to you and your group to me.  While you are at it, please
>>return the disk drive that I donated to Mid-Pac High school to be used
>>for open source.   I will make arrangements to donate it to a more
>>deserving organization which does not have a leader who constantly
>>insults persons who contribute financially to the cause of Linux and
>>open source.  We will inform Mid-Pac of the reasons why we are asking
>>for its return.
>>
>>-------- Original Message --------
>>Subject: Athlon Comptuer
>>Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 15:42:38 -1000
>>From: "W. Wayne Liauh" <LiauhW001 at Hawaii.rr.com>
>>To: Joe Linux <joelinux at earthlink.net>
>>References: <3E0B6EDE.8040709 at earthlink.net>
>>
>>
>>
>>Just realized that I don't have Warren Togami's e-mail address.  Would
>>you please ask him to hand back to you the Athlon computer that I
>>personally delivered to him but apparently was never put in good use.
>>
>>If you have any problem, please let me know.
>>
>>Wayne
>>    
>>
>
>Unreal and completely childish.  Joe, you and I split the cost of a Western 
>Digital 120 gb hard drive for LUAU.  This drive can not be returned to you.  
>Videl has been up for nearly 200 days.  It cannot come down to return this 
>drive to you.  I will personally buy you a replacement drive for the $100 
>that you donated.  I do not know what Warren has done with the machine that 
>Wayne gave him.  If there is any problem returning it, I will personally 
>purchase a complete and BETTER replacement for Wayne.
>
>You and Wayne are much older than most of us.  Warren had no business taking 
>some jab at you.  He knows better.  He is still a very young man, though.  If 
>what he said was wrong, why respond in kind?  You should know better; you are 
>an adult.  Wayne is an adult, a professional lawyer.  Now he wants you to get 
>a computer from Warren and LUAU that he gave Warren and the group.  What, are 
>we in 5th grade or something?  UNREAL.  
>
>You will have a replacement drive.  Wayne will have his replacement computer. 
>I will buy both of these if needed.  Please do the community a favor: take 
>your toys that you want back and grow up.  We are trying to do some good 
>here.  There is no time to deal with your hurt feelings.  If the best you can 
>do is ask for material goods back, take them and be on your merry way.  I 
>have plenty of money to replace your "gifts."  You will not hurt us with this 
>action.
>
>scott
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