[LUAU] list "moderation"

Gary Sublett gsublett at gmsdigita.com
Sat Mar 29 11:22:37 PDT 2008


On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 06:11:29 -1000
Michael Bishop <michael at michaelsplace.net> wrote:

> Gary Sublett wrote:
> > On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:05:12 -0700
> > "Vince Hoang" <vince at litrium.com> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> You just don't get it. I am not turning on emergency moderation.
> >> Instead, I will remove both of you from LUAU until you settle your
> >> differences. I do not begrudge either of you. I think you both want
> >> what is best for HOSEF, but your strong personalities prevent you
> >> from finding common ground.
> >>
> >> You idea of containment does not work in the Internet age. I tried
> >> keeping this venue open in your defense. By closing off both
> >> hosef-managers and LUAU, the disagreement will spill elsewhere, and
> >> likely where you will not be able to retract the discussion.
> >>
> >> If any subscribers disagree, let me know.
> >>
> >>     
> >
> > I disagree, the threat of removing a subscriber from the list based
> > on what?  
> >   
> Off-topic material. Jim said Scott wouldn't allow his posts through
> to HOSEF-manager where their thread belongs. So Jim took it to LUAU.
> The posts seem to cover more HOSEF board related business and
> personal issues rather than *nix related things.
> > To protect someone from themself, seems rather paternalistic.
> >   
> I see it more like protecting LUAU and the LUG. The most recent posts 
> concern me greatly.
> > To protect the integrity of the list or subject matter, seems
> > inconsistant with the range of subjects or lack thereof over recent
> > years.
> >   
> Which has led to people leaving the list or becoming disgusted with 
> LUAU/HOSEF. I think stronger moderation is in order. Especially with
> the recent threats of lawsuits and personal information leaks.
> > --
> > Gary

 
Michael,

Vince asked for input from list members and I provided mine.

If this threatened removal from the list is based on being "Off Topic",
it is IMHO an inconsistant action in light of what has been allowed on
the LUAU list over the last few years. For example, all the HOSEF
specific promotion, solicitation, etc.  If you or other list members
view all things HOSEF of interest/on topic/representative/a the face of
the LUAU community, then I find it mis-guided to frame the current
strife/activity of HOSEF (internal or external) as "Off Topic".

You advocate stronger moderation, I disagree. Had there not been the
reported "moderation" (censorship) on the HOSEF managers list would we
be discussing this?

 --
Gary



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