[LUAU] Wireless in Honolulu

Jim Thompson jim at netgate.com
Sat Jul 1 19:11:29 PDT 2006


On Jul 1, 2006, at 12:16 PM, Maddog wrote:

> I stand corrected. Wireless Waikiki.org has a coverage map and it  
> appears free although it is a small area.
>
> Jim, how big an area do they intend to blanket? How will they pay  
> for it? Is it supported through their commercial endeavors? If so,  
> won't deploying free wireless sort of kill their own income stream?  
> It seems to me they have Waikiki blanketed with for pay wireless  
> already.

You should ask Shakanet (nam.vu at shaka.net), I'm just trying to get  
the equipment stable.  I think the plan is to get a lot bigger once  
the software is ready (points to self...)

In my conversations with Nam, its the kiosks that are the core of  
their revenue.

Jim

>
> MD
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Thompson" <jim at netgate.com>
> To: "LUAU" <luau at lists.hosef.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 11:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [LUAU] Wireless in Honolulu
>
>
>> Earthlink has already said that its only free for the first  
>> year.    This doesn't mean that Google couldn't come in an  
>> subsidize some  level of access, a la San Francisco.
>>
>> However, there is already free wireless in Waikiki.  (via  
>> Shakanet),  and out here at the Ko'olina the wireless (and wired)  
>> connectivity is  free (Stay Connect).
>>
>> Care to explain these away, before I find more?
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Jul 1, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Maddog wrote:
>>
>>> Did you guys see the press release this week from the Mayor on a  
>>> wireless deal with Earthlink for Honolulu? I'm telling you all,   
>>> Free Wi-Fi is not going to happen here. That is free as in beer.   
>>> Even as I read the press release there were several articles at   
>>> CNET talking about the expense Earthlink is going to incur  
>>> rolling  out the networks and how they will pay for that expense.
>>>
>>> Earthlink is a public company so ultimately they must answer to  
>>> the stockholders.
>>>
>>> MD
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