[LUAU] Love of disagreements
Jim Thompson
jim at netgate.com
Fri Dec 22 02:45:52 PST 2006
On Dec 21, 2006, at 11:45 PM, Jimen Ching wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2006, Jim Thompson wrote:
>> Eben Moglen has participated in a great many technical discussions.
>> Its part of his vocation (job) and avocation (the thing he loves).
>
> Do we have the same definition of technical?
Likely.
> I'm talking about technical software discussions. I.e. design,
> implementation, etc. If Eben Moglen participates in these
> discussions, then this is the first time I've heard of it. Are
> there any references? I would be very interested to hear his
> thoughts on OOP.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that all lawyers are non-
technical. I've dealt with lawyers (patent attorneys, mostly) who
are sharp-as-tacks when it comes to both hardware and software.
And don't make the mistake that one has to have a CS degree to grok
software either.
>
>> Scott didn't say "LUAU = HOSEF; HOSEF = LUAU;", I did.
>
> http://lists.hosef.org/pipermail/luau/2006-December/017515.html
> <qoute>
> Jim is correct that HOSEF=LUAU, and you are correct that LUAU is
> not owned
> by HOSEF.
> </qoute>
Exactly my point. Thanks for making it for me. :-)
>> I never said that I (or anyone, including "HOSEF", the
>> organization) "ows" LUAU.
>
> As you can see from Scotts qoute above; even he recognizes that I
> know HOSEF doesn't own LUAU. I don't know why you insist on
> repeating something that I already know and agree with.
At this point, I'm wondering what your problem might be.
>> Finally, in order to steer this back to a topic we can all engage
>> in, "Free Software" is expressly *NOT* about creation of source
>> code and the sharing of this source code.
>> Free software is a matter of the users' freedom to run, copy,
>> distribute, study, change and improve the software. More
>> precisely, it refers to four kinds of freedom, for the users of
>> the software:
>
> You know what amazes me. Even when we basically agree, you have to
> disagree with me.
>
> When I say "sharing of this source code", doesn't it connote "copy,
> distribute, study, change and improve?" I mean, these are the
> exact activities that sharing source code will benefit. I'm just
> curious, what did you think I meant when I said 'sharing of this
> source code?"
I knew you had an incomplete definition for Free Software.
> Looks like disagreeing with me has become your hobby...
>
> --jc
>
> P.S. Just as an experiemt: 2 + 2 = 4. And I mean it too! :)
As the saying goes, "2 + 2 = 5, for sufficiently large values of 2"
Slashdot doesn't think so: http://images.slashdot.org/topics/topiced.gif
I'm buying you one of these: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/
60f5/
What size do you weear?
(Oh and its experiment).
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