[luau] IMPORTANT - Upcoming List Policy

Joe Linux joelinux at earthlink.net
Thu Sep 5 04:50:00 PDT 2002


I thought the issue here was to discourage flaming.  I didn't mention 
any names in my post and generally don't flame individuals.

In general terms, it's difficult to be all, and do all.  Persons who 
attempt this often become overly stressed out, irritable, and more often 
than not,  irrational.  I'm actually not in Hawaii right now, but I note 
that the Luau group seems to have folded before because people couldn't 
get along, and I wasn't there, and and had nothing  to do with it.  This 
group is actually one of the splinter groups. I actually joined both 
subsequent groups.

I do know the Denver group has been much more stable.  It has mostly 
highly technical fully employed IT administrators as members.  The 
presentations are highly organized and complete with well prepared slide 
shows, and accompanying documentation.   Presentations have been given 
by Silicon Graphics employees, CEO's of mass storage device companies, 
professional software engineers and so on.  I can never remember the 
same individual giving a presentation.  Each month it seems to be 
something different with a new topic and a new face.  The presentations 
are technical, but as often as not, contain a good bit of humor.  As for 
the elected president, he is very easy going, quite likable, and an IT 
professional in the brokerage industry.  I haven't seen or heard of 
anyone calling each other names, or saying they can't deal with one another.

In general terms, any organization is much stronger when there is 
opportunity for the complete participation of the members.  Obviously 
that includes the ability to freely express their own ideas.  I can 
assure you I have never asked for any special favors or dispensation 
from this group although I did eat a big chunk of a community Subway 
sandwich one time.

It's interesting that some people  think  Linux users must fit into a 
certain "mold."  In fact I have always found it curious that the "open 
source" community has tended to be less than open when it came to the 
free expression of ideas.  This forum isn't unique in that regard.

For the record, the disk drive was donated to Mid Pacific Institute, not 
you.  We actually have a letter from them indicating they received it. 
 As to how it was exactly used by them I can't say.  The reason I 
donated the drive was to help promote open source, not any one 
individual.  Furthermore my son goes to Mid Pacific Institute as well, 
and I was very pleased that Mid Pacific had an open source initiative.

Warren Togami wrote:

>
>I wont censor you, but I'm thinking about adding you to my personal spam
>filter.
>
>To everyone else: Yes I am being irrational.  I cannot deal with
>George.  This is a complete waste of my time.
>

If things are a waste of a person's time, then they probably  shouldn't 
deal with it,  particularly if it's around 4:00 AM in their own time zone.

>




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