[luau] Road Runner

Mark Kellman mark_kellman at hotmail.com
Sun Mar 24 09:41:12 PST 2002


Again, I can't thank all of you enough for your time and effort.  Out of all 
of this information, what should I do now?  Sorry, but you guys have drilled 
down quite a bit here and I don't understand most of it and I'm more afaid 
now of making a mistake and really screwing things up.  I know, stupid 
newbie!


>From: Ray Strode <halfline at hawaii.rr.com>
>Reply-To: luau at videl.ics.hawaii.edu
>To: luau at videl.ics.hawaii.edu
>Subject: Re: [luau] Road Runner
>Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 02:11:54 -1000
>
>>
>>
>>
>>1.  The kernel is compiled with networking support and recognizes the
>>Intel PRO/1000 Ethernet card.  Warren, I doubt a new kernel is needed.
>>You mentioned there was a problem with the EEPro100.  This is an
>>EtherExpress card.  I do not believe the problem you remember applies
>>here, unless an Intel PRO/1000 is the same as an EtherExpress Pro100,
>>which I doubt.
>>
>I'm not certain, by I think it's atleast plausible that they use the same
>driver.  Remember it's a gigabit card, but it's only being pushed to 
>10Mb/s.
>Chances are at least for that much functionality the same driver would
>work (and is probably being autoloaded).
>
>>But I am not against upgrading to the latest kernel.  I
>>just do not believe it is necessary in this case.  Mark, I do recommend
>>you install a kernel version that Oracle has tested with.
>>
>I agree with you.
>
>>2.  DHCP is installed.  It must be, since running it resulted in an error
>>message about it being running already.  More about this later.
>>
>Yes that and the fact that his routing table shows him having a gateway and
>ifconfig shows him having an IP address :-).  And so when he goes
>ls /sbin/dhcpcd
>it's there :-)
>
>>As I see it, there are potentially two problems.  First, DHCP does not
>>seem to be running after bootup.
>>
>That's not a problem.  That's a choice.. He only wants it to give him
>internet
>on demand (when he plugs the cable modem into the already running box).
>
>>Second, as Patrick suggested, there might be a hardware problem.
>>
>No.. It gets an IP address and Gateway.
>
>>Assuming the problem is _not_ with hardware, we still need to figure out
>>why DHCP is not running, or was killed.
>>
>It is running.
>
>>Unfortunately, I am not a RedHat user, so I have no idea how RedHat
>>
>>implemented their network configuration.  So if Warren and Ray could help
>>
>>me out, I have a few questions.
>>
>Okay, I can prolly help ya.
>
>>Anyway, this is how Debian configures the network.  How does RedHat
>>configure the interface for DHCP?
>>
>/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
>sets some environment variables that /etc/init.d/network
>script uses to know what to do.
>
>>Ray, I think it is better to determine
>>why RedHat is not running DHCP automatically, rather than running
>>/sbin/dhcpcd.
>>
>He doesn't wan't it to run automatically.  He wants it to run on demand.
>You are right though.  It's better to use
>/etc/init.d/network
>then /sbin/dhcpcd and friends
>
>>Since we are talking about RR, there is no reason to
>>manually startup the network.
>>
>Yes there is.  He normally keeps his cable modem plugged into his other
>computer.
>
>>1.  Mark, you need to login as root from your KDE environment to run all
>>of the commands that everyone is asking you to run.  The reason you got
>>an error when you typed 'ifconfig' was because you were not root.  Ray,
>>Warren, correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't RedHat include /sbin in the
>>path when you are logged in as root?
>>
>It does, but depending on how super user priveleges are gained, the
>exisiting environment may be inherited, so the path and such may be still
>set to the previous user.
>
>>Another benefit of using a terminal application instead of Ctrl-Alt-F7 is
>>that you can copy and paste the output of those programs into an editor.
>>The terminal app usually has a scroll bar, so if the output scrolls off
>>the window, just move the scroll bar up and copy the text.
>>
>That's true (except Ctrl-Alt-F7 normally goes back to X, not to a console)
>
>>2.  The dmesg output suggests that the kernel already recognized the
>>Ethernet card.  This means the device driver was compiled into the kernel.
>>So there is no need to worry about loadable modules.  If no one knows what
>>this is, it doesn't matter.  It is not important.
>>
>hrmmmm........interesting.....I never even thought of that.  Actually, 
>dmesg
>output isn't strictly boot messages is it?  I mean it updates itself
>whenever
>the kernel ring buffers are written too, yes? (I'm not sure) .  If you
>notice
>the ethernet card driver loading is the absolute last thing on the list.
>That
>suggests to me that it may have happened sometime after bootup.  (Like
>when the module was loaded after dhcpcd was ran).
>
>>3.  Concerning the contents of the /etc/resolv.conf file.  I think having
>>only one IP address listed is a mistake.  I had problems where the first
>>DNS server on the list was down.  If there was no backup, I would have
>>been locked out of the Internet.  The fact that there is only one entry
>>could mean something went wrong.  If one entry is correct, I think RR
>>mis-configured their system.  Someone should phone them up and complain.
>>
>Well one nameserver is good enough to get things working temporarily is
>all I meant.   Road Runner has quite a few nameservers actually.
>
>>4.  Concerning re-installing DHCP, I only suggested this as a quick fix.
>>We could try to figure out what went wrong with DHCP.  But it would be a
>>lot easier to just uninstall the program, then install it again and go
>>through the configuration procedure.
>>
>I could be wrong, but in this case I dont' think that would help at all.
>
>--Ray
>
>
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