Someone here must be qualified...

[Epsas Nova]

Ben,

On the mainland (at least the Bay Area), 50-80K a year for a senior at a large organization is pretty low - however, on Oahu that salary is competitive with what local companies will pay...  not to mention that you can get pretty far on that chunk of change in Hawaii.

The real kicker right now is that, in this economy, there will be a LOT of seniors who will drool to get this job.

Pre-Tech Bubble Collapse, a senior with 5 years of administration experience would have an asking salary of at least 70K.  The sky is the limit from there - although the salary cap for systems administrators is at around 160K or so, system engineers much more.  That, at least is the impression that I got. 

cheers,
charles


On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 06:08:21PM +0000, Ben Beeson wrote:
> 
> Eric and others,
> 
> 	I don't rightly know how much this is "worth."  I can tell you about 
> salaries in the career field I am in (military), and I can even speak a 
> bit to commercial aviation salaries.  I also think that in general, our 
> military IT folks are underpaid for the mid-level and higher experience 
> levels.  What I don't know is how much the civilian world values these 
> skills.  Perhaps you or someone else could shed some light on this.  I 
> don't mean to pry, but I am curious, so how much should such a person be 
> worth in the commercial world?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ben 
>    
> 
> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> 
> On 10/25/01, 12:21:34 AM, Eric Hagen <ehagen at hawaii.edu> wrote regarding 
> [luau] Re: Someone here must be qualified...:
> 
> 
> > The problem is the pay. Not the job or the clearance.
> 
> > Eric Hagen                  "Sometimes we get lost in the darkness,
> > ehagen at Hawaii.Edu          the dreamers learn to steer by the stars..."
> >                           "You fight for something because it is good.
> >                                       Not because it stands to succeed."
> 
> > On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Ben Beeson wrote:
> 
> > >
> > > Not to say that that would rule a qualified person out, but clearance
> > > investigations cost lots of $ and take a few months.  You can always
> > > apply if you think you can pass the clearance investigation.  Who knows,
> > > maybe you'll get hired anyway.
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > >
> > > On 10/23/01, 10:13:27 PM, Epsas Nova <epsas at inflicted.net> wrote regarding
> > > [luau] Re: Someone here must be qualified...:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well, the applicant must have a current Top Secret Clearance - this rules
> > > out most people.
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 09:15:16PM -1000, Jeff Mings wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > >     I found this on honoluluhelpwanted.com and thought someone in our
> > > > > group might be interested:
> > > > >
> > > > > -Jeff Mings
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > /Unix Systems Engineer/Analyst - GCCS-M/
> > > > > *Unix Systems Engineer/Analyst - GCCS-M*
> > > > >
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> > > > > with GCCS-M (Global Command and Control System - Maritime) experience.
> > > > > Must have a background in Unix and Sun Solaris. Minimum 5-8 years
> > > > > experience. Will provide intelligence support to the Command Center,
> > > > > trouble shoot and resolve all system issues, and will be responsible for
> > > > > the life cycle maintenance of the system. Prefer candidates with a
> > > > > military background. No relocation offered.
> > > > >
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> > > > > 40 *Start Date:* asap *Job Duration:* Direct Placement *Detailed Job
> > > > > Duration:* Direct Hire *Degree Type:* BS *Degree Area:* Computer Science
> > > > > *Experience Minimum:* 5 years *Certificates/Licences:* current top
> > > > > secret clearance
> > > > >
> > > > > Candidates responding to this posting must currently possess the
> > > > > eligibility to work in the United States. To submit a resume for this
> > > > > position, you must place PR96813/RHW/1615A in the subject line of your
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> > > > > Do not send e-mail attachments.
> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > > Posted: 10/4/01
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > 
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