Cyberclops in a bind

Nelson Garcia garcian002 at hawaii.rr.com
Fri Mar 30 17:50:20 PST 2001


"named" is the name server daemon, it is almost always some version of BIND.

looks like X is pid 407 in your list.

Have you checked the ps man page? I was just about to do that to answer some
of your questions, you might feel better reading it for yourself rather than
taking our word for it.

I forgot what started this thread.  Did you want to run a DNS server or
where you just having problems resolving names?

Later,
Nelson

-----Original Message-----
From: cy at lamx01.mgw.rr.com [mailto:cy at lamx01.mgw.rr.com]On Behalf Of
Cyberclops
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 3:24 PM
To: Linux & Unix Advocates & Users
Subject: [luau] Re: Cyberclops in a bind


Okay, here's my list.  Just out of curiosity, how many processes are
"named" processes?  I presume "bind" is a named process.  Should I have
typed in "named bind"? or is "named" good enough?  In other words does
simply typing "named" have it list all the so called "named" processes?
Is "tty" the abbreviation for a "terminal"?  For example will
<CTRL>+<ALT>+<F2> take you to "tty2"?  ->  I just tested it and found
out that it does so "tty1" must be a virtual area in "runlevel 3".  And
<CTRL>+<ALT>+<F7> takes you back to "X".  Where do we see the "X"
process running in the list?  is that "PID 1"  If "STAT" "S" means
"sleeping"  what is the meaning of "SW", "SR", and "R"?  In studying
this, I see that I'm still not clear on the difference between a "TTY"
and a "pts/"x"".  The reason I say this is that the "pts/x" is listed in
the "TTY" column so I presume it is some sort of subset of "TTY" but it
then makes me hazy about my understanding of a so called "tty."  Sorry
for all the questions, but it seems to be the nature or Linux/Unix.  [I
just typed this: "cy at mycomputer:~ > tty"
	   	and got this     "/dev/pts/3"

At least you got me using the "man pages" a bit.

My process list:
cy at myipaddress > ps ax
  PID TTY      STAT   TIME COMMAND
    1 ?        S      0:04 init [5]
    2 ?        SW     0:00 [keventd]
    3 ?        SW     1:11 [kapm-idled]
    4 ?        SW     0:00 [kswapd]
    5 ?        SW     0:00 [kreclaimd]
    6 ?        SW     0:00 [bdflush]
    7 ?        SW     0:00 [kupdate]
    8 ?        SW<    0:00 [mdrecoveryd]
    9 ?        SW     0:00 [kreiserfsd]
  175 ?        S      0:00 /sbin/dhcpcd -D -H eth0
  211 ?        S      0:00 /sbin/portmap
  218 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
  227 ?        S      0:00 /sbin/syslogd
  231 ?        S      0:00 /sbin/klogd -c 1
  238 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
  313 ?        SL     0:00 /usr/sbin/xntpd
  315 ?        SL     0:00 /usr/sbin/xntpd
  316 ?        SL     0:00 /usr/sbin/xntpd
  330 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/cron
  346 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/nscd
  347 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/nscd
  348 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/nscd
  349 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/nscd
  350 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/nscd
  351 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/nscd
  352 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/nscd
  373 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd
  399 tty1     S      0:00 /sbin/mingetty --noclear tty1
  400 tty2     S      0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty2
  401 tty3     S      0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty3
  402 tty4     S      0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty4
  403 tty5     S      0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty5
  404 tty6     S      0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty6
  405 ?        S      0:00 /opt/kde2/bin/kdm
  407 ?        R      0:08 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt07 -auth
/var/lib/xdm/authdir/a  408 ?        S      0:00 -:0
  425 ?        S      0:00 /usr/X11R6/bin/xconsole -notify -nostdin
-verbose -ex  433 ?        S      0:00 /bin/bash --login
/usr/X11R6/bin/kde
  522 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: dcopserver
  524 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: klauncher
  526 ?        S      0:02 kdeinit: kdesktop
  528 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: kded
  532 ?        S      0:02 artsd -F 5 -S 8192
  537 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: kxmlrpcd
  546 ?        S      0:01 kdeinit: kicker
  548 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: klipper
  550 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: khotkeys
  552 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: Running...
  553 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: kwrited
  555 pts/0    S      0:00 /bin/cat
  558 ?        S      0:00 knotify
  561 ?        S      0:00 ksmserver --restore
  562 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: kwin
  564 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: kcookiejar
  565 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: konqueror
  567 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: konqueror
  568 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: kio_uiserver
  569 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: konqueror
  571 ?        S      0:00 knotes -session
10508a8e23000097664040800000019500013  576 ?        S      0:04
/opt/netscape/netscape
  591 ?        S      0:00 (dns helper)
  599 ?        S      0:00 kdeinit: konsole
  600 pts/1    S      0:00 /bin/bash
  607 pts/1    R      0:00 ps ax
cy at myipaddress:~ >

Ben Beeson wrote:
>
> Cyberclops,
>
>         The syntax you typed means this:  run the ps cpmmand with options
'ax'
> (a = list all processes, x = include all processes without controlling
ttys)
> and pipe the result to the grep filter.  The grep filter is run with
'named'
> which would match any entry with 'named' in it.  (Likely one for the
'named'
> process and one for the 'grep named' process.)   The output you received
is in
> the following form:
>
> 'process id number'     tty     stat    time    command
>
> For your case, the shell returned  the entry for the 'grep named' entry
running
> as process '1284', on the tty titled 'pts/1'.  The 'S' means the process
is
> asleep, and the bsdtime the grep process used was very short  '0 minutes
and 00
> seconds'  (it took less than a second to complete.)
>
>         Each time you type a command like 'ps ax | grep something' the
process
> id of the grep command will change because you are running a new instance
of
> that process.  However, if you type ps ax by itself, you will also see
lots of
> other processes.  Many of these processes do not change their process
> id number because they have been running and are still running since the
box
> was booted.  Here is an example of all the processes currently running on
my
> system:
>
>   PID TTY      STAT   TIME COMMAND
>     1 ?        S      0:01 init [3]
>     2 ?        SW     0:01 [kflushd]
>     3 ?        SW     0:26 [kupdate]
>     4 ?        SW     0:00 [kpiod]
>     5 ?        SW     0:00 [kswapd]
>   198 ?        S      0:00 /sbin/pump -i eth0
>   311 ?        S      0:00 portmap
>   352 ?        SW     0:00 [lockd]
>   353 ?        SW     0:00 [rpciod]
>   364 ?        S      0:00 rpc.statd
>   412 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/atd
>   573 ?        S      0:00 rpc.rquotad
>   584 ?        S      0:00 rpc.mountd --no-nfs-version 3
>   597 ?        SW     1:53 [nfsd]
>   598 ?        SW     0:00 [nfsd]
>   599 ?        SW     0:00 [nfsd]
>   600 ?        SW     0:00 [nfsd]
>   601 ?        SW     0:00 [nfsd]
>   602 ?        SW     0:00 [nfsd]
>   603 ?        SW     0:00 [nfsd]
>   604 ?        SW     0:00 [nfsd]
>   629 ?        S      0:03 /usr/sbin/automount --timeout 60 /misc file
/etc/auto
>   667 ?        S      0:22 sendmail: accepting connections on port 25
>   682 ?        S      2:35 gpm -t ps/2
>   726 ?        S      0:09 xfs -port -1
>   813 tty3     S      0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty3
>   814 tty4     S      0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty4
>   815 tty5     S      0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty5
>   816 tty6     S      0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty6
>  6435 tty2     S      0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty2
>  6577 ?        S      0:24 syslogd -m 0
>  6588 ?        S      0:00 klogd
> 10195 ?        S      0:00 lpd
> 10464 ?        S      0:04 crond
> 11629 ?        S      0:00 /usr/local/psionic/portsentry/portsentry -stcp
> 11791 ?        S      0:00 inetd
> 12981 tty1     S      0:00 login -- someuser
> 13325 tty1     S      0:00 -bash
> 13336 tty1     S      0:00 sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startx
> 13343 tty1     S      0:00 xinit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- -auth
> /home/someuser/.Xaut
> 13344 ?        S      0:11 /usr/X11R6/bin/Xwrapper :0
> -auth /home/someuser/.Xauthorit
> 13348 tty1     S      0:16 kwm
> 13363 tty1     Z      0:00 [kwmsound <defunct>]
> 13364 tty1     S      0:00 kfm
> 13365 tty1     S      0:00 krootwm
> 13366 tty1     S      0:00 kpanel
> 13367 tty1     S      0:00 kbgndwm
> 13377 tty1     S      0:05 kmail -caption Mail client -icon kmail.xpm
> 13380 tty1     S      0:00 konsole -icon konsole.xpm -miniicon
konsole.xpmi -cap
> 13381 pts/2    S      0:00 /bin/bash
>
> Some systems have many more processes than even this.  (Also note
> that the init process is #1. ) That's why we usually pipe ps to grep, and
maybe
> even awk when we know what we are looking for -- it tends to cut down the
> clutter significantly.
>
>         There are other tricks you can do with ps and its friends to get
> different presentations of the system data.  Try 'man ps' for some
examples.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ben
>
> On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> > My problem is that I have no idea what any of the the syntax means.  I
> > typed the following and got similar results, but with a different
> > number.  What does each section of what I typed mean and what does each
> > section of what was returned mean?  I know somebody said, "The grep
> > commands gets it name from
> > what it does.  It finds Global Regular Expression Patterns.  And regexp
> > gets it name from REGular EXPression."
> >
> > root> ps ax | grep named
> > 1284 pts/1    S      0:00 grep named
> >
> >
> > Jeff Mings wrote:
> > >
> > > Looks like no bind process is running, but rather, the single process
> > > caught by grep is grep looking for bind.
> > >
> > > -Jeff
> > >
> > > Cyberclops wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here's what mine looks like.  Is "bind" running or not?
> > > >
> > > > root> ps ax | grep bind
> > > > 1234 pts/1    S      0:00 grep bind
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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