Future of the LUAU Site and List

[Mike Ballon]

Why do we need so many groups in the first place, we just don't agree?  At
one time we could get anyone to take care of the webpage now we have three
separate groups and pages?

The LUAU mailing list and webpage was my job but it was handed over to
zentkovich at yahoo.com but I haven't heard from him once.  I'm leaving island
the end of May and while I could handle the list it makes more sense to have
someone here do it.

I like the forum idea and I'll go sign-up when I'm done and answer any
questions I can.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Warren Togami" <warren at togami.com>
To: "Linux & Unix Advocates & Users" <luau at maile.hi.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 2:33 AM
Subject: [luau] Future of the LUAU Site and List


> That previous e-mail was forwarded to several mailing lists, but this one
is
> specifically for LUAU people.
>
> I have this question, what will become of this mailing list?
> While this has not been out in the open, there has been some resistance to
> the name "LUAU" due to some previous events in the past that have
tarnished
> the name.  It is not my place to point any fingers or say anything about
the
> nature of these events as I was not around back then.  It will suffice to
> say that many among the OSS advocates of our local community felt the need
> to distance themselves from the name.
>
> At some point I began planning to revive the local OSS community, this
time
> with a strong emphasis on community education and advocacy toward schools
> and non-profit organizations who would benefit the most from OSS.  We on
> this list explored different names of this new group, but many have
> suggested sticking to the name LUAU.  After this point we waited a few
weeks
> as I pushed to get approval for meetings on the campus of Mid-Pacific
> Institute.
>
> Suddenly, and a complete surprise to me, John Christian announces his
ALOHA
> group.  After the first meeting and private discussion with John, we
decided
> that our goals in OSS groups were very different so I decided to go ahead
> with my original plans.
>
> Long story short, I named my group MPLUG, and we have started off with
such
> an unexpected tremendous interest that I have had to turn people down from
> seminar sign-ups.  (NOTE: WE NEED YOUR HELP.  We were scheduled for an
> "Introduction to Linux" seminar on April 7th at the Atherton YMCA, but I
> learned today that I will be unable to teach that seminar.  Could somebody
> experienced with Linux and free on that day please e-mail me?)
>
> Now MPLUG and ALOHA have our own sites.
> MPLUG
> http://www.mplug.org
> ALOHA
> http://www.linuxhi.com
>
> For MPLUG I have decided to try an online web board instead of mailing
list.
> Please join the MPLUG Community Discussion Forum.
> http://forum.mplug.org.  Yeah, yeah, I know.  My MPLUG web page is ugly.
> I'm working on it.
>
> I have 20-30 new users of Linux who may be posting many questions soon, so
I
> would really appreciate it if some of the more experienced users out there
> could register at the board and help out.  I hope to build this into a
> robust online community.
>
> ---
>
> Now, back to my original question, what happens to this LUAU site and
> mailing list?
>
> While the group LUAU may no longer exist, the mailing list still reaches
> many people who may have not been active, but have been listening and
> learning all these years.  The mailing list will continue to be a useful
> resource for spreading announcements to these interested parties.  I
propose
> that the mailing list remain as-is.  I think most conversation will
> transition to the MPLUG Community Forum and ALOHA's Slash web log, so I
> believe this old LUAU list will be mainly useful for annoucements.
>
> However, the LUAU site itself must be stripped.  Its content, links from
> Hawaii ISP's and existence in search engines may be confusing and
misleading
> toward people looking for Linux information in Hawaii.  People may be
> confused by the page that still says Tuesday meeting dates.  I propose
that
> the site be stripped down to two elements: 1) Links to MPLUG and ALOHA.
2)
> The LUAU Mailing List subscription page.
>
> Are you folks in favor or opposition to this proposal?  Please reply with
> your feelings regarding this matter.
>
> Who is maintaing that site?  Could you please e-mail me?
>
> Warren Togami
> warren at togami.com
>
>
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