Back from the cold white north

[Eric Hagen]

Deven,

I would say thanks, but no thanks.

The reasons,
The farther I stay away from spooks, the better I feel.
Showing up at one Defcon meeting and trying to get in with the real black
hats will not work, and peg you as a script kiddie or informant.
By getting your security certification, the real black hats already know
who you are.
All you will really meet is a bunch of script kiddies trying to do the
same thing.
The list goes on.


Eric Hagen                  "Sometimes we get lost in the darkness,
ehagen at Hawaii.Edu	     the dreamers learn to steer by the stars..."
			    "You fight for something because it is good.
	 				Not because it stands to succeed."

On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, Deven Phillips wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> 	Sorry for being out there for w while. I had to make a business trip to
> Alaska, and I just returned today. I would like to put it to the group
> to ask if they hace suggestions for a meeting location for ALOHA. The
> best candidate would be a location with accessible Internet access, can
> accomodate 20+ attendees, and has a place for us to use a projector. The
> Brewer Environmental location has been denied, and I would like to start
> putting together the next meeting as soon as possible.
>
> 	Secondly, I would like the community's opinion on an ethical quandry I
> am having. I have been approached by an agent for the Naval Criminal
> Investigative Service (NCIS) who would like to send me to DefCon (July
> 13-15 in Las Vegas) for the sole purpose of making friends with Black
> Hats and informing on them. Personally, I want to go, but I don't want
> to be an informant. Should I take the trip on the Navy's dime and just
> lie to the agent, or should I take the moral high ground and decline the
> invitation????
>
> Deven Phillips, CISSP
> Network Architect
> Viata Online, Inc.
>
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