[LUAU] Another Bylaw to Chew On

Daniel Nakamura dnakamu at math.ed.hawaii.edu
Thu Jun 17 19:46:20 PDT 1999


I agree, I think I would rather give money (donate) rather than be forced
to give money.

On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Zachary P. Taylor wrote:

> It is not the amount, but the idea. I am pretty sure everyone could afford
> $1 or more a month, but the idea of it is what I think is wrong.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-luau at luau.hi.net [mailto:owner-luau at luau.hi.net]On Behalf Of
> > Mike Ballon
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 3:26 PM
> > To: luau at luau.hi.net
> > Subject: Re: [LUAU] Another Bylaw to Chew On
> >
> >
> > $1 a month won't "kill" anyone but there are several LUG's I've seen that
> > have sponsors, maybe that's another route?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: George Toft <LinuxAdvocate at iname.com>
> > To: <luau at luau.hi.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 5:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: [LUAU] Another Bylaw to Chew On
> >
> >
> > > Zachary P. Taylor wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I agree with most of it, except dues. It was started as a free group,
> > and
> > > > should always remain so.
> > >
> > > I think the time has come to consider dues.  For example,
> > > let us suppose we decide to have a presence at a show or
> > > convention (we were going to have one at the Networking Expo
> > > last December).  How are we going to decorate the booth?
> > > By using a banner, or sign.  These cost about $200.
> > >
> > > Let us further suppose the group decides - by a vote of
> > > 30 to 20 (work with me here) - to buy a sign.  $200 divided
> > > by 50 LUAU members is $4 each.  The 30 who wanted it pony
> > > up $4 each, but the 20 who did not want the sign say "I don't
> > > want the sign, so I'm not paying."  LUAU is not a taxing
> > > authority, so we can't make them pay.  So now we have $120
> > > for a $200 sign.
> > >
> > > This leads to two possible scenarios:
> > > 1) The 30 who want the sign pay $6.33 each and get the sign.
> > > This is not fair for the majority to pay for something that all
> > > benefit from.  It's like someone eating the pizza at the meetings
> > > that the majority paid for and not putting in their $6.00.
> > > 2) We make our own sign using a word processor and paper, and
> > > tape it together out of 8-1/2 by 11" printer paper.  This gives
> > > us a real professional image, and people are sure to take us
> > > seriously - NOT!!!
> > >
> > > If we have 50 members and collect $12 per year ($1/month) per
> > > member, that gives us $600 per year to work with.  We can get
> > > a sign, and buy anything else we may need to support promoting
> > > Linux.
> > >
> > > Linux started off in the "hacker" (old connotation) world, but
> > > is now becoming very commercial.  In the same vein, I think it's
> > > time for us to "commercialize" (or at least consider it).
> > >
> > > I realize adding money to the equation adds to the complexity
> > > by an order of 10, so we should revisit this issue after we
> > > re-organize - we have enough on our plate now.
> > > --
> > > George Toft    http://gtoft.dynip.com/LinuxAdvocate/
> > >
> > > In self-defense, all Microsoft Office attachments
> > > are refused.  Please don't send them.
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