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Below is an exchange between an angry Macromedia shareholder and an Macromedia
tech support.  It appears that Macromedia promises that Flash 6 for Linux
will be available this summer.<br>
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While I am on this subject, allow me to make a few extra comments.<br>
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On your drive to push the adoption (or at least the consideration thereof)
of LTSP for Hawaii schools, you are doing a very good job. But deep down,
I feel that school adms will come out with other excuses if you solve this
problem.  (The next most common excuse will most likely be, which is indeed
quite laughable: do you have a virus protection protocol?) I strongly believe
that eventually we will need to consider a legal solution--taking the schools
to the court.  As taxpayers, we should have a voice as to how our tax $$$
is being spent.  But I believe you are taking the right step in focusing
your initial effort on private schools.<br>
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I am thinking about doing the same thing with Texas, oops, Hawaii, Bar Association.
 Currently, it has adopted a water-tight Microsoft-only policy (the most
outrageous in the country).  Don't get me wrong, Microsoft makes very good
products, but since our state bar has a compulsory due-paying policy (and
I believe we have one of the highest dues among all the states that I am
licensed), I don't think the State Bar should be aiding and abetting an illegal
monopoly at the expense of its members.<br>
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I probably should not have brought the above issue, but my main point is,
we need to have a workable turn-key solution for business Linux desktop users
before we step up our advocacy.  George and I have completed a pretty good
first phrase in this regard, and I would welcome more volunteers to help
trying out different desktop packages and documenting our user experience.<br>
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wayne<br>
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I just want to say
that Macromedia is betting alot on the success and dominance of Micro$oft
and Apple<br>
in the OS market. I don't think Macromedia will be around much longer if
they don't turn around and see<br>
the Unix shotgun pointed in their faces. What OS do you think the majority
of the internet runs on? Windows?<br>
Apple? Have you guys been watching the news about M$. Your freaking meal
ticket, Steve Ballmer, said they<br>
would rather stop making Windows all together if they were forced to separate
IE from the core OS. Then what?<br>
What is Macromedia going to do then? Is this what your betting on? And what
about Apple? Two years ago, this<br>
company was dead in the water... and the last time I checked, they still
are a very poor company. The smartest move<br>
that company ever did was perfecting their kernel with Darwin. (a clone OS
of freeBSD) <br>
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So, what happens if both Micro$oft and Apple go bust? Then what? Will you
then make your software run on<br>
Linux? Solaris? HP Unix? I bet you would. But you know what, we won't use
it. Unix people don't forget things. We<br>
remember the sell outs. We remember those companies who don't really care
about the internet movement, but<br>
just their stock value. In the end, all you'll have is a nice retirement
fund, maybe a going away party, some loving<br>
hugs and kisses from the other sell outs you call co-workers and that will
be it. You will not be remembered.<br>
Your company will not be a legacy. You will be just another business with
a product to sell. How sad.<br>
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Personally, I own many, many, many shares of Macromedia stock... I will be
selling it off. I don't believe Macromedia<br>
can survive the computer evolution that's taking place. Hey! Say hi to Billy
G. for me....<br>
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catch ya on the flip side...<br>
aj.flores                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       <br>
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                                                                                        <b>Clint Critchlow</b><br>
                                                                                Macromedia Technical Support<br>
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Linux users should 
be happy to know that Flash Player 6 for Linux will be released this Summer 
(don't know if that is June or August).  Take a look at ColdFusion MX or JRun
for our Linux server products.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
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            </b>                                                                  Clint Critchlow<br>
Technical Support Specialist<br>
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