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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ok...I get back from networld+interop on the
10th....I'll die for a little while (20 hour days for setup) and then I'll start
the ball rolling with my fellow sysadmins on getting "disposal"
equipment.....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'll also start pinging my friends in silicon gulch
about donations of largish switches that would be suitable for clusters and
hub/switches of other varieties for small labs, etc....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My kids and I also (when we have time) have dropped
in fiber backbones for k-12 schools in the past. This type of thing saves
MUCH money and gives lots of future for schools....I tend to prioritize for the
"have nots" first....but I do REQUIRE that the PTA provide labor to do things
like digging ditches and tacking the fiber up between buildings, etc....no free
lunch, and our labor is after hours only....this has been a BIG problem in the
past with schools insisting that work be done during the regular work
week. So thusly we've turned down quite a few schools as being
unreasonable.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We're finishing up Lyon's arboretum first....then
another project is possible....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>/brian chee</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>University of Hawaii ICS Dept<BR>Advanced Network Computing Lab<BR>1680
East West Road, POST rm 311<BR>Honolulu, HI 96822<BR>808-956-5797 voice,
808-956-5175 fax<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=sctinc@flex.com href="mailto:sctinc@flex.com">R. Scott Belford</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=luau@videl.ics.hawaii.edu
href="mailto:luau@videl.ics.hawaii.edu">luau@videl.ics.hawaii.edu</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 25, 2002 6:46
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [luau] A Mission For
Luau</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Brian,<BR><BR>Well Done! I am at the plate and swinging. I need
team mates. I live in Kailua. I have a large Garage. I have an employer with a
large warehouse who could help. We just couldn't do any work there. We could
in my Garage. Let's try to build on the excellent work you have already done.
You are in an especially good position to capture the "trash" at
UH.<BR><BR>scott<BR><BR><BR>On Thursday, April 25, 2002, at 03:26 PM, Brian
Chee wrote:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>You've hit on something
that many different organizations have tried to do in the past....here's
what we were doing....<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>I
HAD a warehouse are to store stuff while a small crew of students
restored/scavenged to make some good machines....they were then put into
K-12 libraries as netware catalog stations...worked fine as dos
workstations....we also did some machines with telnet/web/etc on them with
old windows and those also worked
fine....<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>then
uh took away my storage area and thusly the program died....<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>The
rules that we have to work under are:<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>- wait
forever for the property management folks to allow us to dispose of the
computers on inventory.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>-
give the ITS organization first dibs<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>-
store the stuff as long as it takes, but now no storage<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>-
finally give really old stuff away<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>We
are now disposing of P120's and P200's which are mightly fine linux
terminals....sooooo if someone else has the energy to work with me on this
kind of stuff...I'll extend feelers out out again for people doing disposals
of low end pentium class machines....<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>So....am
I to understand you're stepping up to the
plate?<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>/brian
chee<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR>University of Hawaii ICS
Dept<BR>Advanced Network Computing Lab<BR>1680 East West Road, POST rm
311<BR>Honolulu, HI 96822<BR>808-956-5797 voice, 808-956-5175
fax<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR><B>From:</B> <U><?color><?param 1999,1999,FFFF>R. Scott
Belford<?/color></U><BR><B>To:</B>
<U><?color><?param 1999,1999,FFFF>luau@videl.ics.hawaii.edu<?/color></U><BR><B>Sent:</B>
Thursday, April 25, 2002 6:09 PM<BR><B>Subject:</B> [luau] A Mission For
Luau<BR><BR>Several weeks ago I spoke with Jon Fujiwara at the University of
Hawaii's College of Business about taking all the computers they trash and
doing something with them. The idea came from observing this heap of
hardware that sat under a staircase for weeks while everything good was
pilfered. Eventually it was all trashed. I am convinced that a lot of that
could have been used. Jon tells me that the few charities who accept
hardware only want stuff "fast" enough to run windows. This leaves a lot of
"trash". Charles described to me another pile of pc's outside of UH's
Physics department. I think that if we want to positively influence the
community's impression of Linux/*bsd, the conversion of old PC's for the
poor and disenfranchised (of which we have much in Hawaii) should become our
mission. It would create great press for linux in general, and it would
generate networking opportunities for you guys who want it. Perhaps a
non-profit company could be created to facilitate this. I have a second
phone line that could be used to field interested calls. I am sure that we
all have space to store some hardware; I have a large garage I can donate.
You each could help hunt down "junk" from our local universities,
etc.<BR><BR>Every day there is good stuff going to waste here. There is a
tremendous digital divide on the islands. I would imaging many of Sandi and
Dustin's neighbors in the Kahaluu area could benefit. There are churches,
senior citizens, etc., that are waiting for your efforts and creativity. We
as the local linux community can do something about this that demonstrates
our capacity to affect real social change with this open source linux
thing.<BR><BR>I have been waiting for when I had time to delve into this to
post it to the group. The post below that I saw on Slashdot is inspiring.
Here in the land of Aloha we can do something special. Let's find a
way.<BR><BR><BR>http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/04/25/0515220&mode=flat&tid=99<BR><BR>An
Anonymous Coward writes <I>"Out in Oakland, CA a group is <U>taking donated
PC's and breathing new life into them with Linux</U>. They turn around and
donate the computers to schools, build POVRAY render farms (with MOSIX) and
generally promote Linux."<BR><BR></I></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>