YUP! On both counts. They make you pee in a cup and it is very insulting to get an offer like that, espicially since we were both making right at six figures on the mainland. What really got to me was guys telling me if I got my MCSE they could bring me into a entry level NT admin position! That'll make you want to hurt people in an interview!!!!! I am doing some boring ass reading tech docs for the gov't right now waiting on a clearence (pay is decent though) and Sandi is still looking. But we are in Hawaii where we want to be. No more dealing with LA, SF, NY or flying 100,000+ miles per year. Dusty > > 27k? that's pretty insulting. > actually, more depressing than insulting. > > hey, they make you pee in a cup for those govt. jobs, right? > > =jay > > On 2 Aug 2001, Dusty wrote: > > > Aloha, > > > > Sandi and I have recently returned to the island after taking > > advantage of the opportunities for unix people on the mainland for the > > past few years. Things move vvveeerrrrryyyyy sssssllllloooooowwwwww > > here. I was told by one company three months ago that they really > > needed to hire someone this week. They then told me a couple days > > later that they wanted to hire me (for a decent salary) and I have > > still been hearing from them that any day now they want to hire me. > > Unix jobs on the island are mostly a joke (no insult intended, just > > reality) compared to the jobs we had on the mainland. But we moved > > back because we wanted to live here. We actually quit great jobs to > > move back just before everything went bad on the manland. > > > > If you have a secret or higher clearence then the gov't jobs can pay > > pretty good (25% extra for being in Hawaii). For two people with > > masters degrees and close to ten years experience working with every > > box Sun has made from IPC to UE10000 we have been offered positions > > paying $27k (to maybe we could offer $50K) and asked numerous times > > why we don't have an MCSE!!!!!!! On the gov't side, if you have a > > clearence, you could get $60-80k+. > > > > Here are some places to look: > > > > http://hawaii.employmax.com/ > > http://www.ajb.dni.us/hi/seeker > > http://www.go.com/WebDir/Careers/Job_listings/By_region/U_S/Jobs_in_Hawaii > > http://www.hawaiisnews.com/jobs/index.html > > http://www.hawaii-jobs.net/ > > http://www.jobshawaii.com/ > > http://www.hawaiijobforce.com/ > > http://www.techjobshawaii.org/ > > http://www.prostaffing.com/ > > http://www.employment-resources.com/states/hawaii-jobs.html > > http://www.accessamer.com/hawaii/employment.html > > http://www.libb.com/workis/hawaii_jobs_tx.htm > > http://www.opihi.com/mililani/Jobs/ > > http://www.ijive.com/hawaii/ > > Here are some gov't contractors you can contact, they have good unix > > jobs if you have a Top Secret clearence. Still worth talking to even > > if you have no clearence. Also put your resume on the Army, Navy, Air > > Force, and Sparwar HR websites. > > > > SAIC > > Keith Briem 834-8268 briemke@saic.com > > Larry Knosp 834-8268 knospl@saic.com > > Jill Schalm jill.m.schalm@saic.com > > > > CSC > > Roger Hirlinger rhirling@csc.com > > Dan Hay 834-3688 > > > > BAH > > Ted Peck peck_theodore@bah.com > > > > SPAWAR > > Bernie Schneiderman bernies@spawar.navy.mil > > > > TNOSC > > Robert Langley LangleyR@SHAFTER.ARMY.MIL > > > > PRC > > Matt McCullough McCulloughM@SHAFTER.ARMY.MIL > > > > Wheat International > > Jim Bone 521-8810 jbone@wheatintl.com > > Tim Freeman, VP tfreeman@wheatintl.com > > > > Anteon > > Jim Hickerson 838-1300 > > > > > > Enjoy, > > Dusty > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Dear Luau'ers, > > > > > > Does anyone know of a company that is hiring Unix programmers or systems administrators- or, just as good, a resource to find Unix work in Hawaii? Dice seems to come up empty handed (save for a sysadmin position that requires 5 years of Solaris experience, versus my 3, I'll see how that turns out)- and the Hawaiian job sites were just as much of a help. > > > > > > I moved to back to Hawaii last month from San Francisco (I graduated HS here in 94'), where I was working with a Unix Consulting firm. Everything was going fine, until the point when the stock market imploded, the dot-coms crashed, and with it my consulting firm's client base. I was laid off with a letter of recomendation and a severence check - I then decided to head back to Hawaii to find a living. From what I've been reading, I'm not the only person whose come back to Hawaii from Silicon Valley. > > > > > > What I've found is that I'm either way overqualified for the positions available (not hubris, I've been systems lead on networks comprised of over 120 production servers) or the position involves schlepping for the military, which I am not particularly interested in. > > > > > > But... I'll persevere - and I won't be ashamed to aim my sights low, in recognition of the current market for Unix geeks in Hawaii. > > > > > > And... if all else fails... I'm a good cook! > > > > > > > > > Aloha, > > > Charles > > > > > > --- > > > You are currently subscribed to luau as: dusty@sandust.com > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to luau as: jay@musubi.org > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to luau as: dusty@sandust.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub')