[LUAU] X Input Methods

[Hawaii Linux Institute]

Hi MonMotha:

I think there are quite a few mis-understandings.

Fedora is not designed to be a "set" distro.  Rather, it is intended to 
a "core", and an experienced user would definitely want to customize it 
before using it.

There are many things that can be said against Red Hat.  More so about 
Fedora.  But, again, Fedora only provides a core which needs to be 
customized.  Not too many people are ready to accept this "business" 
model.  Your experience in doing Linux your own way may be exactly what 
is needed to supplement Fedora, or even in "rolling your own distro".

I have greatly benefited from your comments on LUAU which shows your 
vast experience in Linux/Unix, and would hope to continue receiving the 
same.  Best,


-- 
W. Wayne Liauh, Ph.D., J.D.
Attorney and Counselor at Law


MonMotha wrote:

> Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:
>
>> MonMotha wrote:
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>>> with a bunch of useless information 
>>
>>
>>
>> When you post a message in any public forum, make sure you watch your 
>> manner.  Of course, I have been a big violator myself.
>
>
> You know, I've been on here a while.  If you don't like me, I'll 
> unsubscribe.  In fact, with how Redhat/Fedora centric this list has 
> become, it is useless to me; I'll go ahead and unsubscribe after this 
> post.
>
>>
>>> as I *will not* run Redhat or anything derrived directly from it, I 
>>> learned my lesson with RedHat 6.2 and 9).
>>
>>
>>
>> Fedora Core =! Red Hat.  If you don't like the Red Hat tainted 
>> kernel, run the generic kernel.  I am sure as you have been telling 
>> me, that you are more than capable of doing that.
>
>
> I don't care about the kernel (I *always* run my own kernel, Debian is 
> no exception).  It's actually the almighty highfallutin' RedHat 
> community that gets to me.  I asked why their compiler couldn't 
> compile stock glibc once.  The response was to "use the RPM".  Of 
> course, there are people who actually have a need to compile things, 
> like when they're not targeting the local system...
>
>>
>> Fedora is being developed with a model more or less like Debian.  I 
>> have known a big bunch of Fedora developers in Taiwan and China who 
>> have nothing to do with Red Hat.  I don't give it a damn that you're 
>> putting me down, but I do not appreciate that your bias is split over 
>> to those noble volunteer developers.  Wayne
>
>
>
> I won't argue that Redhat/Fedora has contributed some very nice things 
> to the OSS community.  They've also contributed a lot of crap, 
> frankly. Redhat/Fedora are usually horribly broken in many ways beyond 
> what I can possibly believe, but then maybe that's just because I 
> don't like my system to be tied to a specific set of stuff.  Debian 
> has packages for well nigh everything, and you can usually make them 
> work together.  Their installation scripts are almost always nice 
> enough to ask you if you want it to manage the config file for you or 
> not (to which I almost invariably choose no), an option not granted to 
> me by Redhat/Fedora.
>
> Despite what you may say, Fedora is very much Redhat like.  Much more 
> so than, say, Mandrake (also derrived from Redhat).  Heck, Redhat 
> doesn't exist anymore except in the form of RHEL, so Fedora might as 
> well have taken over from where Redhat left off.  Unless FC has made 
> some SERIOUS changes (and by serious I mean like overhauling the whole 
> damn thing), I simply cannot work with Redhat or their community.
>
> Also, suggesting that I change distributions simply to set one thing 
> up is preposterous.  You may redo your system every few months, but I 
> personally like the fact that I'm not runnign windows and don't have 
> to do that. I've been running this install for over a year and a half 
> now and have never had a major problem with it (though recently I've 
> been a bit upset at how lagged Debian Unstable has gotten since 
> Testing has basically been frozen, but that's why we have alternate 
> APT repositories).  My question VERY CLEARLY said that I wanted to 
> know what the underlying changes that needed to be made were.  While 
> you did indicate what those were (and yes, Debian has it all nicely 
> packaged for you), the implication that I should "just install Fedora" 
> is silly.
>
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> I will be unsubscribed after this post is made.  Good bye.
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> --MonMotha
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