[luau] our economy

[Dustin Cross]

Aloha,

There are many good paying tech jobs in Hawaii.  They are just all with the
US government (contractor adn civil service) and almost all require a
security clearance.  A clearance isn't hard to get, but it can take a long
time.  There is something like SIX TIMES as many jobs that require a
clearance as there are people with a clearance, so they usually pay pretty
well for talent.

On the civillian side things are pretty SAD!  At the peak of the Internet
(Sandi and I went to the mainland for those years) I was looking at some
jobs in Honolulu.  And I saw things like a position for a Solaris Unix
admin, requiring 10 years experience and a master degree and it offered
$35,000.  A person with that kind of background could be easily making
$100,000 in any city  on the mainland at that time.  From what I have seen
being back for two years now, things haven't gotten much better.

For people looking, here is a list of most of the government contractors on
the island.  Almost every position they have will require you to get and
maintain a security clearance, but they have cool jobs and pay pretty well.


CSC
Roger Hirlinger - rhirling at csc.com
Dan Hay - 834-3688
Al Edwards, Jr. - aedward2 at csc.com

BAH
Ted Peck - peck_theodore at bah.com

SPAWAR
Bernie Schneiderman - bernies at spawar.navy.mil

TNOSC
Gladys Skinner - gladys.skinner at shafter.army.mil

RCERT
Ron Lee - leer at shafter.army.mil

PRC
Matt McCullough - McCulloughM at SHAFTER.ARMY.MIL

Wheat International
Jim Bone - 521-8810 - jbone at wheatintl.com
Tim Freeman, VP - tfreeman at wheatintl.com

Anteon
Jim Hickerson - 838-1300

Wakelight
Joy Hess - focus at wakelight.com

Computer Training Academy
Robert Nehmad - rnehmad at cta.net

SAIC
Keith Briem - 834-8268 - briemke at saic.com
Jill Schalm - jill.m.schalm at saic.com

EDS
Sandi Schneierman - sandi at sandust.com

Raytheon
Jim Etherton - jim.etherton at nmci-isf.com

Wamnet
John Rogers - john.roger at nmci-isf.com


Mahalo,
Dusty

> On Thursday 20 February 2003 08:32 pm, Stan Baptista wrote:
>>
>> So how does Hawaii expect to attract and keep high
>> quality technical talent and businesses when they can
>> do so much better elsewhere?  Frankly, I have yet to
>> hear any answer other than "lucky live Hawaii" when I
>> inquire about the salary situation.  Well, I
>> guess...maybe, but it's not a very satisfactory
>> answer.
>
> begin rant
> I have come to hate this phrase.  This and the "price of paradise."
> They  seem to excuse every market inefficiency and economic incongruity
> we have.   They distort basic laws of economics by enabling one to
> justify non-market  rates simply because of our location.  They create
> an economic myth that is  simply not true.  I find that greed, the fact
> that we border on being an  isolated second world government, and
> unchecked corruption are the true  contributors to our staggering
> economic discrepancies.  A simple solution is  not so easily stated.
> end rant
>
> scott
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