[luau] Dual Booting with WinXP Pro

Brandon Jasper dragonw at hawaii.rr.com
Thu Nov 7 21:11:00 PST 2002


On 11/7/02 7:05 PM, "W. Wayne Liauh" <LiauhW001 at hawaii.rr.com> wrote:

> Thanks.  I think you just answered the first part of my question, in
> that I should be able to install WinXP Pro in any of the three primary
> partitions.  If this is not correct, please let me know.
> 
> (It should be noted that although textbooks say that there are "four"
> primary partitions, since the fourth one will be used to create extended
> partitions, there are only three primary partitions in which to install
> a bootable partition.  Also, since Win98 does not use MBR, I am pretty
> sure that you must install Win98 in the first primary partition, unless
> you install a multiple booting tool first, such as Norton something.)
> 
> The second part of my question, which I did not ask, is that, if I
> install WinXP "after" Linux, do I need to do anything? With Win98, if
> installed after Linux, it will wipe out the content of MBR.  When that
> happened, you need to use a bootable floppy or CD, chroot, then reload LILO.
> 
> Thus, I am rephrasing my question: can I reserve a space for WinXP
> (which will be below the 1012nd cylinder, or roughly 8GB), then install
> it after everything is done?
> 
> 
> Eric Hattemer wrote:
> 
>> I am thoroughly confused at this email.  First, when you say "dual
>> booting", are you refering to two versions of Windows?  If not, then
>> there is almost no order required.  You get 4 primary partitions on your
>> system (make sure you partition with win > NT or linux).  The first
>> sector of your disk is the MBR, and points to the first sector of the
>> partition which will be booted.  This can be any of the 4 primary
>> partitions.  There are rules like that the start of that partition
>> cannot be over 8GB, and that it can't be an extended partition, but I
>> believe both of those rules can be cicumvented in most modern
>> situations.  
>> 
>> When you install lilo to the MBR, it is the first thing that comes up
>> when your system is booted.  It then selects which of those partitions
>> will be booted.  For linux it automatically starts reading the kernel
>> and etc.  For windows, it does a thing called chain loading, where it
>> starts the windows partition boot sector, and then windows starts
>> loading its own kernel.  Sometimes people in linux create a boot
>> partition, which holds the kernel and whatnot.  This is especially
>> useful for software raid or odd root filesystems that can't easily be
>> booted from lilo.  You might want to put that at the beginning of the
>> disk, but it really shouldn't matter.  It should be below 8GB, but other
>> than that, it can go wherever.  Generally the windows partition should
>> start under the 8GB mark.  But like I said earlier, I'm almost sure that
>> doesn't matter even in win98.
>> 
>> Now if you're depending on the windows bootloader in boot.ini, then
>> that's probably a different story.  However, its a story that I know
>> little about.  As long as you have linux on the system, you should
>> probably use lilo or grub.  If not, you still might consider it or
>> another 3rd party boot loader.  If you are using windows boot loader,
>> then I believe the NT-style OS should be first, but I could be wrong.
>> 
>> -Eric Hattemer
>> 
>> On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 12:34, W. Wayne Liauh wrote:
>>  
>> 
>>> When dual-booting with Win98, of course, Windows must be in the first
>>> partition.  However, I remember this (i.e., the Windows be in the first
>>> partition) is not necessary with Win2000.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know whether I can put WinXP Pro in a non-first partition?
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Windows will generally try to install its own bootloader NTLDR in the MBR,
NT and 2k does so I expect XP would do so as well.




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