[luau] Re: RHCE certification

[Dan George]

Warren
             I can hook you up with Joe Bransfield who is also trying to get
RHCE programs here in Hawaii. Ive been trying to help him with getting
interested people in taking Linux classes here on Oahu. CompUSA MAY be
setting up the RHCE track within the next year. Interest is growing and they
have a VUE testing center there. If you want to contact Joe Bransfield I can
hook you guys up and we can get something going. I just took one of his
Linux classes and he works for and is the Navys IT manager.  He has a six
month stint with the Navy but will be back in August.  The more people we
get on board with this the better. Someone has to sponser this and CompUSA
has the infrastructure to do this.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Warren Togami" <warren at togami.com>
To: <luau at videl.ics.hawaii.edu>
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 9:18 PM
Subject: [luau] Re: RHCE certification


> I don't think there are any RHCE certified people in Hawaii at the moment,
> but I plan on going to California early August to take the RHCE exam.
There
> are no certification testing centers in Hawaii because it isn't a simple
> multiple choice exam.  It is difficult for Red Hat to justify the expense
of
> running a testing center in Hawaii with so few people lining up for
> certification classes and exams, but perhaps if we have enough interest
they
> could setup a temporary training and exam center for us.  Anyone else
> interested?
>
> You must also understand that RHCE is not (and not meant to be) anything
> like MCSE.  It is 20 times tougher and very (too) expensive, roughly $750
or
> $2,500 for the very accelerated class and exam bundle.  You CANNOT pass
this
> exam without the base knowledge and real world experience to back it up.
If
> you are coming from almost no real world experience, it may cost you over
> $10,000 to go through their training track from beginner to advanced,
while
> you spend lots of time practicing with several of your own systems in a
home
> test network.
>
> Of course their very expensive courses are not absolutely mandatory.  For
> most already experienced Unix or Linux people it would be a simple matter
of
> familiarizing themselves with the layout and tools of the latest version
of
> Red Hat, a few services that they have less experience with, and they
would
> have no problem passing the exam.  If you aren't already experienced, you
> must teach yourself the individual pieces listed in the requirements on
the
> RHCE information pages.
>
> For such an expensive certification process, is it worth it?  Yes and
no...
>
> Yes:  RHCE is recognized as one of the toughest certifications in the
> industry.  Unlike most other certifications, only 33% of the test is
> multiple choice, while the other 66% is a performance based test of one's
> real world experience in managing the Red Hat Linux platform.  One can be
> assured that a RHCE person knows their craft well, while the same cannot
be
> said about most other certifications.
> (i.e. does the MCSE cert alone tell you that a person knows their stuff?
In
> most cases the answer would be "Hell no.")
> No: Almost nobody hires based on a Linux certification yet.
>
>
> As for the lack of books and resources on the topic, I think that is
> somewhat intentional.  Those who take the exam are required to sign a NDA
> saying that you will not tell anyone about the contents of the exam.  As a
> result, no exam study guide can be a definitive measure of what the exam
> contains.  That isn't to say that it is not possible to write a book based
> upon the experiences of an exam taker who secretly breaks NDA, but any
book
> written to the RHCE exam will become quickly outdated for one key reason:
> RHCE always tests on the latest distribution.
>
> Is this unreasonable?  No.  If you are overwhelmed by the thought of
> learning a new version of a distribution, then RHCE is simply not for you.
>
> Lack of updated books?  Part of being a good Linux administrator is
knowing
> how to find resources and teach yourself.  Now you aren't in this alone,
we
> the group will help you if you have specific questions.  Get started with
> the RHCE requirements list and Google.
>
> List of RHCE Study Points (at bottom), be sure to read the FAQ too
> http://www.redhat.com/training/rhce/examprep.html
>
> How To Ask Questions the Smart Way (so I will feel like answering rather
> than ignoring)
> http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan George" <LinuxDan at hawaii.rr.com>
> To: <luau at videl.ics.hawaii.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 10:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [luau] News - Want to Make a Living From Linux?
>
>
> > Do you know any RHCEs on Oahu? I would like to find out about a good
study
> > plan with the support to get through this. Unless MCSE, which has
> resources
> > just about everywhere you look, the information for RHCE both study
> guides,
> > test sites (Oahu) and any RHCE user groups (Oahu) are hard to find.
>
>
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