Mailing List Capacity Reached! CRAP!

[Dean Fujioka]

Warren,
thanks for your jewels of knowledge and time...
If Mailman is web based, does that mean that we would not be able to
retrieve it in our mailboxes, or is that merely an alternative method to
read the mail?  I'd like to remain as open source and free as possible
regardless... it just makes sense. As a recent subscriber, I'll speak for
the uninitiated unsubscribed people and say "Please add more users to the
list".
I like the name LUAU, but if you must change it, I like Steve's idea of
putting Hawaii in there somewhere, like Hawaii Unix / Linux Users HULU or
Hawaii Unix /Linux Advocates HULA

dean


----- Original Message -----
From: "Warren Togami" <warren at togami.com>
To: "Linux & Unix Advocates & Users" <luau at maile.hi.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:14 PM
Subject: [luau] Mailing List Capacity Reached! CRAP!


> Crap!!
>
> For a while now I've been sitting here looking at the subscripion numbers
of
> LUAU and wondering why they haven't been increasing.  It has been this way
> for MONTHS.
>
> Now someone e-mails me saying that when he tried to subscribe, it bounced
> back saying Lyris is at its subscription limit.  I am saddened by the
amount
> of lost subscribers we may have lost in this period, I estimate this
number
> to be nearly 70!
>
> HI.NET is using the free version of Lyris to host the LUAU list that has a
> certain number of user limit.  In order to go beyond this limit we must
> either buy the pay version of Lyris or switch to another mailing list
> manager software.
>
> I personally say we should switch to the Mailman mailing list manager
> package used very successfully by Red Hat and Gnome.  Ray Strode and I
have
> been managing Mailman on the new Linux server at the UH ICS Department for
a
> while now and we are very happy with it.  I much prefer Mailman over Lyris
> because it has a much more friendly web based archive.  Mailman archives
are
> also searchable by Google, something Lyris cannot do.  In order to move
from
> Lyris to Mailman, we would need only to convert the mailing list archives
> into mbox format and we would be good to go.  You can see an example of a
> Mailman archive here:
> https://listman.redhat.com/pipermail/ataraid-list/
>
> Unless anyone is unhappy with this idea of moving from Lyris to Mailman, I
> decree that it shall be done.  It is simply better than Lyris while being
> Free and Open Source Software.
>
> Now here is the main question, where should LUAU be hosted?  HI.NET has
been
> gracious for many years in hosting the mailing list for the community and
we
> thank them for it, but we now have the capacity to host it ourselves using
> the University's bandwidth.  Such a move would remove the burden of
hosting
> from HI.NET, making it the community's responsibility.
>
> Jay and anyone at HI.NET, how do you feel about this?  Would you be happy
in
> changing over to Mailman and continuing to host the list?  Have we been
> burdening your company's resources?
>
> Community, what do you want?
>
> These changes must be done soon or we will continue to not have any new
> subscribers.  Everyone please post your feelings on this issue.
> Warren Togami
> warren at togami.com
>
> p.s. I will also put this out now.  I believe it may also be time to
change
> the name of the mailing list.  It annoys me to no end that people still
keep
> thinking LUAU is the local group and asking "When are the LUAU meetings?"
> Yes some of you really hate this idea, so SPEAK UP and let your feelings
be
> known.
>
>
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