[luau] another interesting thing I found on another list
MonMotha
monmotha at indy.rr.com
Thu Dec 5 11:08:01 PST 2002
Jimen Ching wrote:
snip
>
> My second comment concerns Linux and embedded systems. At my new job, I
> am now working with Linux on a single board computer (SBC). These SBC's
> have PII processors (1.2Ghz), 1Gig RAM, Gigabit Ethernet, etc. I hardly
> consider this an 'embedded' system. Though we use this SBC for a very
> specific purpose, I have a hard time convincing myself that I am working
> on an embedded environment. Of course, I have also worked on the
> Microchip PIC17X processors. This is an 8bit processor (10Mhz), with 906
> bytes of RAM for data, 32K bytes of RAM for code. The only communications
> with it is via a serial port or a JTAG emulator. Comparing these two
> environments, its pretty clear which one is 'embedded'.
>
> Every time I hear someone talk about 'embedded Linux', I just have to give
> off a little chuckle. ;-)
>
You actually can run linux on fairly small things (though a PIC is
probably a bit too small). My ipaq for example runs linux, as does my
phone (http//www.tuxscreen.net -- sorry, sold out). The phone
especially feels rather "embedded". 16MB of RAM is plenty, but 4MB of
flash can get a bit tight when squeezing in a full linux system with X.
The hardware is controlled and such. It certainly feels embedded.
I can't say that I've done work with a microcontroller personally, but
I've helped people work with them before. Assembly is your friend when
you've got less than 1k of RAM and only 8k or so for code :)
However, if you have lots of rom and ram, uClinux is always a
possibility. It doesn't require an MMU and lets you use a lot of the
stuff you'd expect from a UNIXish OS without the fuss of doing
everything by hand.
> --jc
--MonMotha
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