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lucidity lucidity at lotek.no-ip.org
Wed Aug 7 21:55:00 PDT 2002


Deluded Dave: I agree with you that gui's implementation in *nix/linux is 
a little slow, However, GUI does not automatically mean better, 

Case in point:  earlier this week, my 3dfx card crapped out on me.  The 
only way I could get back into my system was to run the linux rescue mode 
from cd1: (rh 7.3). enable the fb, and recompile the kernel to include 
support for the fb device.( I was very impressed that you could 
recompile the kernel and reboot to it with lilo, from rescue mode.)  
Granted gui's are good for the average desktop user, however
for "Oregon Trail/windbloze user" (flashback to '84).  
Not trying to rehash an old topic... 
	The most informed, and all around 
Sys Admin, knows both worlds...

yOU shouldn't be limited by the interface...

Sorry to rant, but I believe anybody trying to learn *nix or *nux, should 
know how to do it manually:  ie: you need to re-enable kudzu to detect a 
new piece of hardware you just installed, but for some reason, your X 
interface is broken...

       you should utilize the resources at your disposal to fix the problem



Ps.- Assembly is "pretty-much" good now-adays for the dedicated C 
user. ( but it gives valuable insight into just how x-86 processors/memory 
operate...  


But I have always felt: the easier a programming language is: ie, catches 
your mistakes, makes you more dependent on the end product.(java/php/etc.)  
That is why currently, (and I hope always,) C is a language that is never 
deprecated. 

Anonymous quote:  Do you want to point and click, or do you want to *know 
how*?


Again sorry to rant....


               --lucidity

On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, T. David Burns wrote:
 
> And my last take on the CLI vs. GUI religious thing - there are still some 
> people who like assembly language (or raw machine code if assembly is too 
> tame for you). And they are smart people. That doesn't mean we should 
> follow their lead. There are increasingly rare times when you need to do 
> something the old way. But few of us will be sorry to see it go, once 
> something really decent takes its place. (Soon, I hope.) Apple didn't get 
> it right at first, and MS took about ten years to get it pretty close to 
> good, so I guess it's not too embarrassing that a volunteer project is a 
> little slow.
> 
> Deluded Dave




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