I was just wondering what everyone does here for a living. Do you all
actually use Linux in a working environment or is it just a hobby?
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> LUAU Digest for Wednesday, December 12, 2001.
>
> 1. RE: Linux-related storefront?
> 2. IBM: ABC - An Unbreakable Cypher?
> 3. Linux Journal: Caldera Volution the Simple MS Exchange Replacement
> 4. RE: Linux-related storefront?
> 5. Re: Linux-related storefront?
> 6. Re: Linux-related storefront?
> 7. Thank You! (was Re: Linux-related storefront?)
> 8. realplayer and spyware
> 9. Re: realplayer and spyware
> 10. Re: Thank You! (was Re: Linux-related storefront?)
> 11. GLUUG meeting, Next Tuesday
> 12. Re: Linux-related storefront?
> 13. AT cases anyone?
> 14. Re: AT cases anyone?
> 15. Re: AT cases anyone?
> 16. RE: AT cases anyone?
> 17. A 10base2 repeater? 28.8 Hayes modem?
> 18. HOWTO: PDF Windows Network Printer with Samba
> 19. Guide: Introduction to the Bash Console
> 20. 25 inch tall Lego Tux the Penguin
> 21. Re: 25 inch tall Lego Tux the Penguin
> 22. RE: AT cases anyone?
> 23. Re: GLUUG meeting, Next Tuesday
> 24. "Lord of the Rings" CG rendered on SGI & Red Hat Linux
> 25. Re: GLUUG meeting, Next Tuesday
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: Linux-related storefront?
> From: Warren Togami <warren at togami.com>
> Date: 12 Dec 2001 00:14:09 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 1
>
> On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 19:15, Lockhart, Charles wrote:
> >
> > I will say this though, I personally would love to find a decent vendor
here
> > in Hawaii that will support their products even moderately. I recently
had
> > to buy a new workstation for, uh, work, and wanted to buy locally. I
> > couldn't even get anybody to respond to my requests for quotes. I
emailed a
> > few places what I wanted, never heard from them, finally called them up,
"oh
> > yeah, we got your email, we'll get back to you when somebody feels like
it."
> > So now I have a nice new Dell box, runs good, but has a really crappily
> > constructed case. I ordered it, took 1 week to get here. Still haven't
> > heard from the people I requested quotes from.
> >
> > -Charles, Voodoo Priest
>
> Memco Systems locally will order parts from any vendor and build a
> custom system to your specifications, though you should probably
> research the parts yourself because their owner is injustifiably
> pro-Intel. (Nevermind that their Quad Xeon (P3) costs $12,000 and is
> slower than a $4,000 Dual Athlon. Intel is still better!)
>
> Otherwise, if you deal with the right salespeople there that I know,
> their prices are very competitive and service excellent. I bought most
> of the cheap Athlon system parts from Memco. They built a few
> pre-loaded Red Hat Linux servers for Honolulu Community College, but
> they have no real Linux experience so I would personally ask for a blank
> machine and load it yourself.
>
> Joel, please be very careful about this idea. I personally think it
> would be seriously difficult to compete with the established local
> vendors in pricing. Instead you may have far more success by doing
> hardware research, and working with an existing vendor in certifying
> that their hardware is Linux compatible. You could then bring them more
> customers by giving your guarantee that their custom built systems will
> work with Linux, and they would pay you to build and service their Linux
> specific machines. These same customers would probably want on-site
> support for their systems, and you would be there too.
>
> Anyway, that's my idea on this matter. I can look at almost any product
> and tell you at a glance if it is supported by Linux. I was thinking
> about informally going through Byteware's inventory and making a
> checklist of what works and what doesn't with Linux, but I probably wont
> have time to do this in the near future, nor will I be able to offer
> them support.
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: IBM: ABC - An Unbreakable Cypher?
> From: Warren Togami <warren at togami.com>
> Date: 12 Dec 2001 02:15:56 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 2
>
> http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-12-12-004-20-SC-SW
>
> "A Bit Cypher (ABC) is a program that runs on Linux that can takes any
> data file and transform it to a cyphered form that is "reasonably"
> unbreakable. Given the key used for cyphering, ABC can take the cyphered
> form and reproduce the original file exactly.
>
> The strength of the cypher comes from the number of keys,
> 10,000,000,000, and the processing required to determine the mapping for
> each key, assuming the algorythm is at hand for decyphering."
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Linux Journal: Caldera Volution the Simple MS Exchange
Replacement
> From: Warren Togami <warren at togami.com>
> Date: 12 Dec 2001 02:31:59 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 3
>
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5659
>
> "The whole Exchange thing has been holding people hostage", said Caldera
> software architect Louis Imershein. The problem wasn't stability or
> price, but the need for an expensive Microsoft Exchange-certified
> consultant to deploy even a small or mid-sized mail server. The solution
> is Caldera's Volution Messaging Server, which combines SMTP, IMAP, POP
> and web mail in a single, web-administered package licensed for $28 per
> seat. "Users don't know it's not Microsoft Exchange", Imershein said.
> And from the administrator's point of view, the skills to be mastered
> are simpler than those in the thick MS Exchange manuals.
>
> They also mention Steltor's server based groupware product that allows
> Outlook connectivity in another full Exchange replacement option.
>
> Last week Bill Reeder from IBM talked about the Bynari server product
> that runs on IBM servers, another low cost and easy to maintain
> replacement for Microsoft Exchange.
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: Linux-related storefront?
> From: "R. Scott Belford" <scott at belford.net>
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:06:18 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 4
>
> What you could benefit from is the "branding" of linux. There is a
lot
> of free press that the word linux generates and will likely continue to
> generate. You could attract some people to your location to peruse and
buy
> some notable nicknacks because of the name. It's all about cash flow,
> though, and merchandise sales are not likely to sustain your needs.
You'll
> have a hard time keeping the price shoppers from buying your items at
> Compusa. I'm sure you know this.
> Focusing on business services could help. A linux storefront with
> one-stop hardware shopping might work. Like Jeff said earlier, the chance
> to buy a winmodem packaged with drivers is attractive. Here you have
added
> the value of knowledge (appropriate driver) to compatible hardware. Plus,
> you will likely have a shorter return line for defective merchandise.
> An example. I built many linuxservers for the POS customers of a
> business I worked for this last year. The value I added to the minimal
> price of the hardware was my knowledge of great price sources and what is
> and is not linux compatible. Without any OS cost, the customer could buy
a
> server that was less than any advertised deal from Dell, etc. We took all
> the oem risks and the customer got a warranted machine. People and
> businesses pay for this, but I still don't know if you could generate
enough
> working capital to sustain a storefront from it.
> Including support for personal and business users would be good.
There
> are going to be more people trying linux out. A store makes it easier for
> people to know where to go. Most prefer that you come to them, though.
> I don't know and, well, no one ever really knows if it is a good idea
to
> open a business. Crunch some numbers. Make some projections. Put
together
> a business plan and talk to a banker about some credit. You may get some
> good critical feedback. You may get a loan. It's a risk, but of course
all
> business is a risk, you just have to manage it. One thing is for sure,
> someone will do it and when they do they will be THE LINUXGUY whether they
> are an idiot or a genius. The business may not last, but the name
> recognition will buy credibility. Good luck and please be careful with
it.
>
> scott
>
> success without humility is just an indulgence in arrogance
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Linux-related storefront?
> From: "Rodney Davis" <rodney at wincubic.com>
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:04:54 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 5
>
> Does anyone know of some good accounting software for KDE
>
> Thanks,
>
> rodney
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Linux-related storefront?
> From: Warren Togami <warren at togami.com>
> Date: 12 Dec 2001 11:40:19 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 6
>
> On Wed, 2001-12-12 at 11:04, Rodney Davis wrote:
> > Does anyone know of some good accounting software for KDE
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > rodney
>
> I heard good things about Kapital by theKompany. It has a very
> competitive price too.
> http://www.thekompany.com/products/kapital/
>
> This company makes commercial and open source applications for KDE and
> Windows platforms. They have very good pricing on most of their
> products. They also donate much of their code to the open source
> community, while selling their core commercial products to support their
> work. Despite these low prices and mix of commercial and free software,
> they are reportedly a profitable company.
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Thank You! (was Re: Linux-related storefront?)
> From: joel <jijoel at lava.net>
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:43:41 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 7
>
> I'd like to say thank you, very much, to everyone who has responded to my
> posting. You have given me a lot of really good ideas (and sparked a few
> more) on what would be wanted, who to talk with, and how to proceed.
>
> I think the idea definately warrants further consideration. I'll talk with
> some more small business owners, including some owners of subculture-type
> shops, to discuss their business strategies and find out how they work. On
> the hardware end, I'll investigate the possibility of partnering with an
> existing company. I figure that start-ups really can't compete on prices
with
> large firms that buy expensive equipment at bulk rates. ;-)
>
> I'm working on a business plan, trying to determine some realistic numbers
> and make it all as bullet-proof as possible (taking big risks is always a
> scary proposition--I'm trying to cut them down as much as possible. ;-)
If
> everything looks good to me, I'll run it past the folks at SCORE (the
Service
> Corps of Retired Executives), the Small Business Association, and maybe
even
> a bank or two. ;-)
>
> I'll let you know how it goes.
>
> Once again, thank you for your ideas!
>
> --Joel
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: realplayer and spyware
> From: Mathisha <mathisha at hawaii.rr.com>
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 12:01:23 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 8
>
> I'm not familer with the code ot fully understand this:
> How does the spyware aspects of Realplayer (as posted on grc
> http://grc.com/downloaders.htm affect Linux? (From a security point of
> view?)
> mathisha
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: realplayer and spyware
> From: Dusty <dusty at sandust.com>
> Date: 12 Dec 2001 14:36:14 -0800
> X-Message-Number: 9
>
> As far as I know the downloader utilities he is talking about to not
currenly run on Linux, so there is no issue.
>
> There is not really a "security" issue, but a "privacy" issue with these
applications. They track who is downloading what, from where, and when.
>
> Dusty
>
>
> >
> > I'm not familer with the code ot fully understand this:
> > How does the spyware aspects of Realplayer (as posted on grc
> > http://grc.com/downloaders.htm affect Linux? (From a security point of
> > view?)
> > mathisha
> >
> >
> > ---
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>
> "Linux is for people who hate Windows. BSD is for
> people that love unix."
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Thank You! (was Re: Linux-related storefront?)
> From: epsas at inflicted.net
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:12:36 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 10
>
> Get a cafe license while you are at it. Hawaii needs a Cafe/Computer
store. A consulting biz would also be good...
>
> I wouldn't limit myself just to Linux however - making your place inot a
game-lounge at nights or on the weekends might create some good revenue.
>
> peas,
> Charles
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 11:43:41AM -1000, joel wrote:
> > I'd like to say thank you, very much, to everyone who has responded to
my
> > posting. You have given me a lot of really good ideas (and sparked a few
> > more) on what would be wanted, who to talk with, and how to proceed.
> >
> > I think the idea definately warrants further consideration. I'll talk
with
> > some more small business owners, including some owners of
subculture-type
> > shops, to discuss their business strategies and find out how they work.
On
> > the hardware end, I'll investigate the possibility of partnering with an
> > existing company. I figure that start-ups really can't compete on prices
with
> > large firms that buy expensive equipment at bulk rates. ;-)
> >
> > I'm working on a business plan, trying to determine some realistic
numbers
> > and make it all as bullet-proof as possible (taking big risks is always
a
> > scary proposition--I'm trying to cut them down as much as possible. ;-)
If
> > everything looks good to me, I'll run it past the folks at SCORE (the
Service
> > Corps of Retired Executives), the Small Business Association, and maybe
even
> > a bank or two. ;-)
> >
> > I'll let you know how it goes.
> >
> > Once again, thank you for your ideas!
> >
> > --Joel
> >
> > ---
> > You are currently subscribed to luau as: epsas at inflicted.net
> > To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub')
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: GLUUG meeting, Next Tuesday
> From: epsas at inflicted.net
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:21:46 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 11
>
> Aloha everyone,
>
> I am thinking that next Tues. will be a good time to initiate the informal
Unix geekouts.
>
> So... Next Tues. at 6:30 at the Coffee Cove, does this sound good?
>
> *Directions*
> http://www.coffeecove.com
>
> I talked to the owner of the place and he is cool with the meetings as
long as people buy something... they have menu items for <$1.25. I can
purchase something for the people without funds, no worry.
>
> Could I get a handcount of everyone who will definately show up? (if it
is more than 12 people, we will have to find a different venue)
>
>
> Thanks,
> Charles
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Linux-related storefront?
> From: Dusty <dusty at sandust.com>
> Date: 12 Dec 2001 17:04:02 -0800
> X-Message-Number: 12
>
> I think something like a Jelly's for Linux/BSD/*NIX geeks and network
gamers that sold hardware, software, services, toys, books, and coffee (I
don't drink the stuff, but everyone else does) would be great! You could
have Unreal or Counter Strike or whatever Tournaments. Have internet
connections for people to bring their own laptop to surf the web. And most
importantly you'd have to stay open kinda late, like 11pm or so (I hate
stores that are closed by 6pm).
>
> If you can afford something near UH you might be able to build a large
student following.
>
> I would prefer something in Kaneohe, simply because there are NO computer
stores there and I live on that side on the island. I don't know if you
would get enough of a following though.
>
> Some place over in Aiea near ACT&T would probably be the more affordable
and centrally enough located to get a following.
>
> Downtown would be a bad place (IMO), because everything closes at 6pm.
>
> Waikiki would most likely be cost prohibitive, but you might be able to
get tourist and local clients. People on vacation or business really like
having a place to connect their laptop and check their e-mail (atleast I
always liked that when I traveled). Then you get a large following of local
gamers playing games their and *nix geeks hanging out talking about the
latest and greatest.
>
>
> Just some more thoughts,
> Dusty
>
>
> >
> > Get a cafe license while you are at it. Hawaii needs a Cafe/Computer
store. A consulting biz would also be good...
> >
> > I wouldn't limit myself just to Linux however - making your place inot a
game-lounge at nights or on the weekends might create some good revenue.
> >
> > peas,
> > Charles
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 11:43:41AM -1000, joel wrote:
> > > I'd like to say thank you, very much, to everyone who has responded to
my
> > > posting. You have given me a lot of really good ideas (and sparked a
few
> > > more) on what would be wanted, who to talk with, and how to proceed.
> > >
> > > I think the idea definately warrants further consideration. I'll talk
with
> > > some more small business owners, including some owners of
subculture-type
> > > shops, to discuss their business strategies and find out how they
work. On
> > > the hardware end, I'll investigate the possibility of partnering with
an
> > > existing company. I figure that start-ups really can't compete on
prices with
> > > large firms that buy expensive equipment at bulk rates. ;-)
> > >
> > > I'm working on a business plan, trying to determine some realistic
numbers
> > > and make it all as bullet-proof as possible (taking big risks is
always a
> > > scary proposition--I'm trying to cut them down as much as possible.
;-) If
> > > everything looks good to me, I'll run it past the folks at SCORE (the
Service
> > > Corps of Retired Executives), the Small Business Association, and
maybe even
> > > a bank or two. ;-)
> > >
> > > I'll let you know how it goes.
> > >
> > > Once again, thank you for your ideas!
> > >
> > > --Joel
> > >
> > > ---
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>
> So I asked my accountant, do I get an agriculture
> exemption for my server farm?
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: AT cases anyone?
> From: Jeff Mings <jeffm at lava.net>
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:02:30 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 13
>
> I have seven AT form-factor cases that I'm about to throw away. A
> few have pentium 133 motherboards in them, with 16 MB RAM, and small
> hard drives. If anyone wants one, please email me before tomorrow
> afternoon, and be able to pick up no later than 5:00pm tomorrow
(Thursday).
>
> -Jeff
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: AT cases anyone?
> From: Jon Reynolds <proteon at gci.net>
> Date: 12 Dec 2001 17:12:46 -0900
> X-Message-Number: 14
>
> Do you ship to Alaska?? ;)
>
> Jon
>
> On Wed, 2001-12-12 at 17:02, Jeff Mings wrote:
> > I have seven AT form-factor cases that I'm about to throw away. A
> > few have pentium 133 motherboards in them, with 16 MB RAM, and small
> > hard drives. If anyone wants one, please email me before tomorrow
> > afternoon, and be able to pick up no later than 5:00pm tomorrow
(Thursday).
> >
> > -Jeff
> >
> >
> > ---
> > You are currently subscribed to luau as: proteon at gci.net
> > To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub')
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: AT cases anyone?
> From: Jeff Mings <jeffm at lava.net>
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:19:51 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 15
>
> Hmmm.... Perhaps I should've mentioned that these are in downtown
> Honolulu, not Anchorage. ;)
>
> -Jeff
>
>
> Jon Reynolds wrote:
>
> >Do you ship to Alaska?? ;)
> >
> >Jon
> >
> >On Wed, 2001-12-12 at 17:02, Jeff Mings wrote:
> >
> >> I have seven AT form-factor cases that I'm about to throw away. A
> >>few have pentium 133 motherboards in them, with 16 MB RAM, and small
> >>hard drives. If anyone wants one, please email me before tomorrow
> >>afternoon, and be able to pick up no later than 5:00pm tomorrow
(Thursday).
> >>
> >>-Jeff
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: AT cases anyone?
> From: "Brian Low" <securityx at runbox.com>
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:20:52 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 16
>
> Jeff,
> I would like to pick up a couple of workstations.
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Mings [mailto:jeffm at lava.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 4:03 PM
> To: Linux & Unix Advocates & Users
> Subject: [luau] AT cases anyone?
>
>
> I have seven AT form-factor cases that I'm about to throw away. A
> few have pentium 133 motherboards in them, with 16 MB RAM, and small
> hard drives. If anyone wants one, please email me before tomorrow
> afternoon, and be able to pick up no later than 5:00pm tomorrow
(Thursday).
>
> -Jeff
>
>
> ---
> You are currently subscribed to luau as: securityx at runbox.com
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub')
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: A 10base2 repeater? 28.8 Hayes modem?
> From: Jeff Mings <jeffm at lava.net>
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:09:48 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 17
>
> This one's unusual, but if anyone is still using coax for ethernet,
> I'm about to throw a Tut 10base2 ethernet repeater that I quit using
> many years ago.
> I also have a couple of Hayes 28.8 modems if anyone's interested.
>
> -Jeff
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: HOWTO: PDF Windows Network Printer with Samba
> From: Warren Togami <warren at togami.com>
> Date: 12 Dec 2001 17:55:32 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 18
>
> http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue72/bright.html
>
> "PDF documents provide a great way to pass around documents on the
> Internet. They have many uses, such as sending quotes and invoices to
> business clients. Two of the main reasons the PDF format is so popular
> is that it preserves all of the document's formatting exactly and it is
> easily viewable on almost all platforms. For many computer users stuck
> in the Windows paradigm, creating PDF documents means forking over
> precious cash to the folks at Adobe. However, this article will show you
> how to use Linux, Samba, and Ghostscript to provide a PDF creation
> service to both Windows and Linux users. Of course, all of this can be
> obtained for free."
>
> "First, let's take a look at the overall scheme of operation. We will
> use Samba to provide a "pseudo-printer" service (it will look like a
> standard printer to clients) that will use Ghostscript to create a PDF
> document out of any Postscript printer job that is queued onto it. We
> will then configure the Windows machines to use this shared printer and
> send jobs to it in Postscript form."
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Guide: Introduction to the Bash Console
> From: Warren Togami <warren at togami.com>
> Date: 12 Dec 2001 17:59:12 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 19
>
> http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal
>
> Abstract
>
> This tutorial presents the Linux terminal and the "bash" shell to
> people who have never used a command line to give commands to an
> operating system before, or who have never done so in Linux/Unix. People
> who have already used a Unix shell before might find it a bit simple.
>
> Due to the popularity of the Microsoft Windows operating system, and
> the large number of ex-Windows-users who have discovered Linux, I have
> provided comparisons to equivalent or similar features and terminology
> in Windows' MS-DOS prompt or Command prompt. These are provided as an
> additional help for Windows users, and are not necessary to follow this
> document.
>
> Since this tutorial is intended as an introduction, it is purposely not
> comprehensive. Several commands, for example, are only explained in the
> depth necessary to gain an understanding of what they do and how to use
> them, not necessarily to use them to their full potential.
>
> In the article I assume that the user is already familiar with concepts
> such as files and directories, as well as filenames, etc.
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: 25 inch tall Lego Tux the Penguin
> From: Warren Togami <warren at togami.com>
> Date: 12 Dec 2001 18:02:46 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 20
>
> http://www.ericharshbarger.org/lego/penguin.html
> 25 inch tall Lego Tux the Penguin
>
> NEAT! Take a look at the pictures on this guy's site.
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: 25 inch tall Lego Tux the Penguin
> From: Jeff Mings <jeffm at lava.net>
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:33:37 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 21
>
> Cool! He did a really good job!
>
> -Jeff
>
>
> Warren Togami wrote:
>
> >http://www.ericharshbarger.org/lego/penguin.html
> >25 inch tall Lego Tux the Penguin
> >
> >NEAT! Take a look at the pictures on this guy's site.
> >
> >
> >
> >---
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> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: AT cases anyone?
> From: "Ronald Willis" <ronal at aloha.com>
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:40:42 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 22
>
>
> Ill be interested in a couple. Just say when.
>
> >- -----Original Message-----
> >- From: Jeff Mings [mailto:jeffm at lava.net]
> >- Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 4:03 PM
> >- To: Linux & Unix Advocates & Users
> >- Subject: [luau] AT cases anyone?
> >-
> >-
> >- I have seven AT form-factor cases that I'm about to throw away. A
> >- few have pentium 133 motherboards in them, with 16 MB RAM, and small
> >- hard drives. If anyone wants one, please email me before tomorrow
> >- afternoon, and be able to pick up no later than 5:00pm tomorrow
> >- (Thursday).
> >-
> >- -Jeff
> >-
> >-
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>
> Subject: Re: GLUUG meeting, Next Tuesday
> From: al plant <webmaster at hawaiidakine.com>
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 19:10:01 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 23
>
> epsas at inflicted.net wrote:
> >
> > Aloha everyone,
> >
> > I am thinking that next Tues. will be a good time to initiate the
informal Unix geekouts.
> >
> > So... Next Tues. at 6:30 at the Coffee Cove, does this sound good?
> >
> > *Directions*
> > http://www.coffeecove.com
> >
> > I talked to the owner of the place and he is cool with the meetings as
long as people buy something... they have menu items for <$1.25. I can
purchase something for the people without funds, no worry.
> >
> > Could I get a handcount of everyone who will definately show up? (if it
is more than 12 people, we will have to find a different venue)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Charles
> >
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> ###############
>
> Charles,
>
> If I can get out of here at a decent time to drive in from
> Wahiawa for 6:30 I will come.
>
> Aloha! Al Plant -Webmaster http://hawaiidakine.com
> Providing FAST DSL Service for $28.80/mo. Member Small
> Business Hawaii.
> Running Caldera Linux 2.4 & Free BSD 4.0 UNIX
> Support Open Source in Business and Computing.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: "Lord of the Rings" CG rendered on SGI & Red Hat Linux
> From: Warren Togami <warren at togami.com>
> Date: 12 Dec 2001 20:54:03 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 24
>
> "Lord of the Rings" Computer Graphics rendered on SGI & Red Hat Linux
> http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,38704,00.html
>
> "But suddenly we had a number of days in a row where we'd come in in the
> morning and there were still lots of things pending. And you'd have
> artists coming in, sitting in their chairs and waiting for two hours to
> see the results of last night's rendering," Labrie says. "At that point
> we were like 'We need to buy another chunk of processing power to get
> through our nightly tasks.'"
>
> "So Weta Digital has started building a wall of machines with the sole
> function of rendering the Lord of the Rings images. So far Labrie has
> purchased 16 dual-processor SGI 1200 servers running Red Hat's version
> of the Linux operating system. By the time the films are finished -- the
> first one is due out by the end of 2001 -- Weta will have 200 processors
> dedicated to rendering."
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: GLUUG meeting, Next Tuesday
> From: Brian Farnell <bfarnell at gte.net>
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 20:58:34 -1000
> X-Message-Number: 25
>
> aye!
>
> On (12/12/01 19:10), al plant wrote:
> >
> > epsas at inflicted.net wrote:
> > >
> > > Aloha everyone,
> > >
> > > I am thinking that next Tues. will be a good time to initiate the
informal Unix geekouts.
> > >
> > > So... Next Tues. at 6:30 at the Coffee Cove, does this sound good?
> > >
> > > *Directions*
> > > http://www.coffeecove.com
> > >
> > > I talked to the owner of the place and he is cool with the meetings as
long as people buy something... they have menu items for <$1.25. I can
purchase something for the people without funds, no worry.
> > >
> > > Could I get a handcount of everyone who will definately show up? (if
it is more than 12 people, we will have to find a different venue)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Charles
> > >
> > > ---
> > > You are currently subscribed to luau as: webmaster at hawaiidakine.com
> > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub')
> > ###############
> >
> > Charles,
> >
> > If I can get out of here at a decent time to drive in from
> > Wahiawa for 6:30 I will come.
> >
> > Aloha! Al Plant -Webmaster http://hawaiidakine.com
> > Providing FAST DSL Service for $28.80/mo. Member Small
> > Business Hawaii.
> > Running Caldera Linux 2.4 & Free BSD 4.0 UNIX
> > Support Open Source in Business and Computing.
> >
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>
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