yo Re: LUG?

[Cyberclops]

Well in a way we are on the same page except I'm oriented towards a
single computer system for family use.  I would like a very simple form
of Linux that is very easy to use.  I find that Linux can be a huge pain
in the butt, because a user can't even control his own desktop.  I would
like to spend thought on just what files need to be locked up, and
protected, and which ones don't.  I down loaded Mozilla yesterday and
wanted to delete the remnants after the installation, and found I
couldn't.  The whole install took an hour and a half, and that's far too
long for anything that could be considered easy to use.  Many times
Linux makes owning a Macintosh look fabulous.  However, I don't want to
use a Macintosh because I am very committed to the idea of both clone
hardware, and open source software.

Dusty wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you.  I am all for getting the word out and introducing new people to *nix.  I think your doing a great job.  I am just asking about the next step.  From the responces I see on this list most of the people that post here aren't that new to Linux.  I was just thinking it would be nice to get together and have a beer (or atleast overdose on some caffine), some pizza and talk about some of the cool stuff we do and can do with *nix!
> 
> Talking about thin clients would be cool, but I don't know that I would go into any detail about XDMCP (X Display Manager Control Protocol) which is basically the protocol that allows to display an X window on a remote X windows system and should be turned off unless you actually use it, because it can be exploited to display your windows on a hackers system.
> 
> Anyway I am very interested in thin clients.  I don't have enough experience with them but if they have anywhere near the performance I think they should, they should be the standard desktop for business!  The biggest problem companies have is trying to control desktops.  With windows based systems users can install software change things on their desktop adn in general screw the box up.  Then they complain that it is going to take some time to ghost them a new hard drive and someone is going to get fired if you tell them they might lose that latest screen saver they downloaded.
> 
> Thin clients that boot off a server, but contain a local disk with /usr/local/bin (read only) or something (so the binaries that get used are local and don't have to come across the network) and swap.  Put all user directories on a network server (users have no write access to the desktop).  Use a very thin window manager with access only to application the user needs and nothing more, not even a shell.  You would probally get better performance if you use two seperate network segments one for the boot server and one for user network traffic.  Users shut off their systems when they go home and in the morning they get a fresh new system ( that is why I think it would be better to have a boot server net, it will get busy every morning, but then there would be no real reason to shut off the systems every night.)
> 
> Well this has gotten long enough for now.  This is the kind of stuff I like to talk about and do.
> 
> Later,
> Dusty
> 
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> > Hey, I take offense to that!  I didn't do any "real stuff" yet because I
> > first had to take care of the newbies that everyone seemed to ignore in the
> > past.  Roughly 15 more people learned enough to begin playing with Linux on
> > their own.  I'd think that's good.  If you would notice in my original plan
> > (that in my laziness I haven't updated yet...) http://www.mplug.org I had
> > originally planned stuff about Linux services, and thin clients.
> >
> > I'm sorry that you 31337 hax0rs are bored with all this newbie stuff lately.
> > Please try to remember that everyone has to start somewhere, and we must
> > help those people too.  The next MPLUG event will be about Linux services:
> > Apache, Samba, XDMCP (X query protocol for thin clients), DHCP, some FTPd,
> > and maybe NFS and NIS.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dusty" <dusty at sandust.com>
> > To: "Linux & Unix Advocates & Users" <luau at list.luau.hi.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 8:30 PM
> > Subject: [luau] Re: yo Re: LUG?
> >
> > > > Dude, we gotta meet sometime.  I dont think the other groups are into
> > real
> > > > stuff :-p
> >
> >
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